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Why Israel should take its time to retaliate against Iran : Comments

By Alon Ben-Meir, published 19/4/2024

Iran’s unprecedented aerial attack on Israel has upended the shadow war between the two countries and created new opportunities to contain Iran while creating a new regional alliance.

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More advice that Netanyahu won't be be taking any notice of if he had the time or interest to be aware of it.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 19 April 2024 9:31:26 AM
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"To begin with, Israel's air defense system has demonstrated how formidable it is, which de facto rendered Iran's air offensive capabilities significantly less effective. The fact that Israel and its allies, including the US, Britain, France, and Jordan, intercepted 99 percent of the Iranian ordinances has had the opposite effect on what Iran wanted to achieve."

What a load of crap.
The correct word here is not 'forbiddable', it's 'ineffective'.
The US and Israel had advanced warning, and had nations, ships - and everything they had in place firing at Iran's response, and you had at least 9 ballistic missiles hit one of the most defended places in the world.

Iran took out radars, interceptors, ballistic missile launch facilities, command and control headquarters.
And they said if Israel wants to escalate, they will hit them with 10 times the barrage.
Not to mention that Hezbollah would flatten Israel themselves.

Iran can destroy all western economies if it closes the Strait of Hormuz.

This was a warning to Israel, one well earned when they attacked consulates on foreign soil.
There is a rule, you don't attack embassies and consulates.

Iran:
'The idea that you can attack us at will, but that we can't do the same, doesn't fly anymore.
We can hit you anytime we want'.

Luckily, Iran does not seek a war or nuclear weapons.
Many in the West however seek a war with Iran, which will force it to build them;
If they aren't simply offered them from Pakistan (fellow Islamic nation) if required.

If Israel continues to act like a terrorist state, it will get what it deserves.

Iran has a defensive military pact with Russia, and China is a large buyer of Iranian oil.
America doesn't get to do what it wants anymore.
Even if Israel is the tail that wags the dog.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Friday, 19 April 2024 9:51:52 AM
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Don't go to war with Iran. But with its evil Commander in Chief clergy. Which should receive less mercy than their HAMAS.

Ordinary Iranians are ready to revolt. They should be assisted with every means possible! Weapons, logistics, assisted Kurdish fighters.
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Friday, 19 April 2024 10:20:12 AM
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Thank you Alon for your words of wisdom.

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Dear Critic,

«The correct word here is not 'forbiddable', it's 'ineffective'.
The US and Israel had advanced warning, and had nations, ships - and everything they had in place firing at Iran's response, and you had at least 9 ballistic missiles hit one of the most defended places in the world.»

The truth is somewhere in the middle.

The word is 'reasonably effective'.

Sure, without the outside help Israel would suffer casualties and much more damage, but it still wouldn't have been the end of the world.

The number of missiles hitting Israel was likely 4 plus one drone.
OK, so this means that 98% were intercepted, not 99% and unlike Israel's early claim that all drones were downed.

These missiles hit and lightly damaged a C-130 Hercules, an unused runway, a building still under construction and a road near the northern Hermon mountain that was hit by the drone.

The daily casualties and damage inflicted on Israel by Hezbollah is significantly larger.

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Dear Alan,

«Ordinary Iranians are ready to revolt. They should be assisted with every means possible! Weapons, logistics, assisted Kurdish fighters.»

You seem to have forgotten something - our sincere prayers!
Posted by Yuyutsu, Friday, 19 April 2024 10:50:19 AM
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"Sure, without the outside help Israel would suffer casualties and much more damage, but it still wouldn't have been the end of the world."

The reason there was no casualties was because Iran gave advanced warning, and did not set out to create casualties.
It was an extremely measured response, and more of a warning.
If they wanted to really hurt Israel, they could've.
But they are not looking for a war.

That was the point, that was the message.

Both sides used the situation to test the other.
Israel was testing their own defenses, and Iran was testing the effectiveness of an attack.

"The number of missiles hitting Israel was likely 4 plus one drone."

You said the other day there was none, and I'd already seen the footage.
The missiles even slowed down and altered their trajectory to avoid the Iron dome interceptors.
- And these aren't the best that Iran has.

"likely"
- I think it likely, that Israel would not tell the truth about the effectiveness of an Iranian attack.
They are compulsive liars, and also, I've heard a different telling on how effective Iran's attack actually was.

Israels missile defense is ineffective (as is ALL THE WESTS)
Iron Dome can be easily overwhelmed by cheap Shahed drone decoys.
You won't have time to reload the launchers and won't be able to stop all the cruise missiles, ballistic missiles or hypersonics.

Iran if it sent a barrage 10 times bigger, which I'm sure they have;
- Will wipe the Israeli military off the face of the earth.
But like I said Iran does not seek a war.

They've just stated they might resort to building nuclear weapons if Israel does not stop it's constant provocations.
And it's Israels own fault, you don't target embassies or consulates on foreign soil.
Israel works on deterrent superiority.
Iran is saying we're not scared to strike you if we must.
The deterrent superiority is over, the bully just got punched in the face.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Friday, 19 April 2024 11:33:50 AM
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10 countries failed in intercepting Iranian drones, missiles: Raisi
http://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/10-countries-failed-in-intercepting-iranian-drones--missiles

>>Iranian President Ebrahim Raisi revealed Thursday that more than 10 countries attempted, using their technological capabilities, to thwart Operation True Promise but failed.

The United States with all its capabilities, as well as France, other European countries, and some regional states, took part in intercepting Iranian missiles and drones launched toward Israeli targets in occupied Palestine, Raisi pointed out during a speech in the city of Shahrud, east of Tehran.

He indicated that the precise Iranian retaliatory strikes against "Israel" took place even though Iran did not employ the element of surprise but proceeded with the attack according to a prior announcement.

The Iranian President warned that if the Israeli occupation entity makes a mistake and attacks Iranian territories, Tehran's response will make "Israel" and its backers regret their actions.

Raisi pointed out on Wednesday that Iran's retaliatory attack against "Israel" was a precise action aimed at punishing the Israeli occupation entity.

He indicated that Operation True Promise was a limited action, underlining that should Iran decide on a broader operation against "Israel", the occupation entity would be wiped out.

He also warned that any hostile actions by "Israel" against Iran's interests would be met with a stronger response.

The Iranian President's statements echoed those of the Commander-in-Chief of the Iranian Army, Major General Sayyed Abdolrahim Mousavi, who affirmed to Al Mayadeen that the Iranian Armed Forces are at utmost readiness to decisively and strongly respond to any aggression against the Islamic Republicc's interests.

In a related context, the Commander of the Aerospace Force of Iran's Islamic Revolution Guard Corps (IRGC), Brigadier General Amir Ali Hajizadeh, affirmed Thursday that his country confronted the Israeli occupation entity with minimal capabilities and outdated weapons.

Hajizadeh noted that Iran did not use any of its state-of-the-art "Khorramshahr," "Sejjil," "Haj Qasem," "Khaibar Shekan," or hypersonic missiles during Operation True Promise, highlighting that the aforementioned missiles enjoy heavy and high capabilities.<<

Israel and the wests missile defense is NOT formiddable.
It's expensive and ineffective, end of story.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Friday, 19 April 2024 12:36:14 PM
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