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Is social cohesion in Australia under threat? : Comments
By Mamtimin Ala, published 16/4/2024Domestic right-wing extremism is deeply intertwined, both ideologically and in other aspects, with a variety of factors like economic stability, political transparency, and social connections.
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Posted by Indyvidual, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 9:38:04 AM
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Hi Mavs
I do believe Hitler dabbled into possible Communism early on in his "career", Stalin was into Orthodox religion, going as far as studying for the priesthood for a short time. I can't but think given different circumstances they could have swapped places, they were easily interchangeable. Probably the biggest difference is Fascism uses Nationalism as a greater tool to exploit the masses, and a way to instil collective fulfilment into that mass. Whereas Communism relies on the nobility of the same mass underclass to aspire to collective fulfilment. Both seek vindication and the correction of wrongs which they believe has unjustly conspired to deny the rightful place of the mass of society. Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 2:00:51 PM
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Hi Paul
There is of course German and Russian Dictatorial national overlays over these isms. ie. Germans have felt most nationally fulfilled fighting Wars since the Prussian State became a support system for the Army from the time of Frederick the Great (1712 to 1786)[1] right through to Hitler making Germany a support system for the Armed Forces from about 1936 to 1945. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederick_the_Great I see Stalin in the long term Russian Dictatorial tradition - that earlier included the Tsars and then the Red Tsar "Communists". This Russian Dictatorial tradition continues under Putin. I don't think the German leaders (then) or Russian leaders (then and now) take/took isms too seriously. They just harnessed/harness ism mythologies to justify their Personal Power over their countries - with their people becoming more malleable and devoted during Wartime. Hence Putin is a Dictatorial Tsar without a crown. He has brought most Russians together through War (over the years in Chechnya, Georgia and now the Ukraine) and he even uses the murdered Romanov Tsarist Dynasty as Mythological latter day Saints of the Putin regime supporting Russian Orthodox Church. http://tsarnicholas.org/2020/08/10/putin-the-church-and-the-last-tsar/ So look at National Dictator Traditions more than isms, I reckon. Cheers Mavs Posted by Maverick, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 4:33:12 PM
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It is all very simple;
You bring in large numbers of Arabs of different religions, different branches of those religions and all you have done is transfer all the characteristics of those immigrants to a new area. Look at what happened last night, this time the raging mob was Christians. Have you EVER seen a mob of baying Australians ? Did you see them at Bondi Junction ? No of course not, it is an Arab reaction transported from the Middle East. Does that not tell you from where not to bring migrants ? Posted by Bezza, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 4:45:36 PM
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Bezza
You ask "Have you EVER seen a mob of baying Australians ?" YES! There was a large Riot of 5,000 of we Anglo-Saxon Whites at Cronulla on 11 December 2005 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_Cronulla_riots#11_December_2005 : read "At 13:45...two boys from Bangladesh were surrounded by the crowd, and had bottles thrown at them, with the crowd repeatedly chanting "Eff off Lebs!". The two boys escaped by car, which were smashed, stomped on and pelted with objects along the way. Chants and slogans such as "Eff off Lebs!", "We grew here, you flew here", "AUSSIE PRIDE" "Eff off wogs!", were repeated and displayed throughout the day by the crowd. The crowd also attacked the police by throwing beer bottles. Police vehicles were also prevented from entering the area. ...an additional 600 people would arrive by train, mostly from the west of Cronulla, to join the crowds. At approximately 15:00, "two young men of [ME] appearance" arrived at Cronulla train station with the crowd outside chanting "Eff off wogs!". The two men (one of whom was a Russian-born Afghan) took refuge in the train. However, the mob entered the carriage and began assaulting them; ...At 15:20, two separate assaults took place; one involved a crowd attacking a man of "[ME] appearance" and throwing beer bottles. In this case an officer intervened and removed the victim as they were both struck by the bottles. A second assault took place outside a takeaway restaurant; three men were taken inside the restaurant as refuge and the diners already inside were moved towards the back. The glass doors and windows were broken and those inside were moved outside without incident. Injuries and arrests By the end of the day, 26 people had been treated for injuries... One police officer was hit by a car and two ambulance officers were also amongst the injured as their ambulance, under mounted police escort, was surrounded and beer bottles were thrown, with one of the ambulance officers being hit on the head by a bottle and the other receiving lacerations on the arm." SEE MUCH MORE This was a White Riot. Anglo-Saxon Mavs Posted by Maverick, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 5:12:20 PM
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Have you EVER seen a mob of baying Australians ?
Well yes the Cronulla riots in 2005. January 2024, balaclavas clad Neo-Nazi's, about 60 in total were brandishing Australian flags when they swarmed a Sydney train. Some people have a rather blinked view of things Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 6:45:30 PM
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Maverick,
Well, from my personal experiences just about all antagonists are Left Wing ! From student demonstrations to fake news to deliberate manipulative disinformation to parasitism ! All Left Wing !