ttbn,

The assertion that the Nazis were right-wing extremists is supported not just by opinion but by a broad consensus among historians based on extensive analysis of Nazi policies, writings, speeches, and actions. For instance, historians such as Ian Kershaw, Richard J. Evans, and Robert O. Paxton have extensively documented how the Nazis' ideology centred around extreme nationalism, racial purity theories, and authoritarian governance—hallmarks of right-wing extremism.

Regarding the use of 'socialist' in the party's name, it's crucial to differentiate between nominal and substantive adherence to socialism. The Nazis' implementation of policies showed a clear departure from socialist principles, such as the socialization of the means of production and support for the working class's interests against the bourgeoisie. Instead, the Nazis suppressed independent labor movements, aligned themselves with industrial capitalists, and eliminated political opposition, including socialists and communists.

If you believe there are specific aspects of the Nazi regime that reflect genuine socialist principles, I would be interested to hear them. Providing specific examples or sources could help in furthering this discussion constructively. It’s through such detailed and evidence-backed discourse that we can better understand complex historical topics.

Finally, contrary to what you claim, I think you do care. Anyone who can stretch such a long bow, with a revisionist take on history as tenuous as the claim that the Nazis were left-wing, surely must care.

We have at least one "useful idiot" on the forum. Only a few years back he was singing the praises of a far right political mob called 'Australian Conservatives', it was nothing more than a thinly veiled fascist outfit led by a disgruntled radical. The party used money raised from the likes of our gung-ho forum friend to live it up five start all around the country before the 2019 election. The party failed dismally at that years federal election scoring less than half a percent of the popular vote, despite the poor fella doing all he could to win them support. The party disappeared leaving the poor sod bewildered and disillusioned with conservative politics, now days he sings the praises of the Lovely Pauline and the One Nutter Party! He will also tell you; "There are no “right wing extremists in Australia”. Australia is under the thumb of the ultra-Left." poor chap, can't help himself.

Syoksya,

As I said you are reading the wrong books. You might say that I'm reading the wrong books. You believe what you believe. I believe what I believe - based on reputably commentators, and historians.

It's not unusual for people with integrity to disagree, no matter how similar their qualifications are. Look at the different views on climate change: well-qualified people with opposite views. We can disagree without rancour. We would agree that Adolf Hitler was a horrible human, but I say that he was a man of the Left, not the Right.

When it's all boiled down, it doesn't matter what a couple of anonymous people think online, but it's good to be able to do it - for now.

The Nazis burned the books and ttbn was not able to quote a single author or book that supports his erroneous take on historical fact.

His everyone knows verbiage, is garbage/horse feathers and bird's fur. In fact, I'd be surprised if he read a relevant history book. Or any factual book that threatens his beliefs.

Probably like his ilk, burns them?

After the war, ordinary Germans were forced to look at the horrific death camps, that they had been conned to believe were holiday camps!

[The Nazis were probably ultra-lefties. Ha, ha.]

Their horror and shame was beyond belief. That anyone was capable of doing such things to fell0w humans!

Right wing extremists/Neo-Nazis nutters, should be stood against a wall and shot least they take us back to that place. That would make the world a safer and more inviting place. Lest we forget!

NB. there is only 6 degrees of difference between all the races on God's earth.

An Indian I knew was burned. He recovered but his skin colour did not. He was white.

What does that prove? That under the skin, Indians are a superior race? COBBLERS.
Alan B.

Hi Alan B

I'm a believer in the the horseshoe theory in politics, whereby the far right and far left, rather than being philosophically and diametrically opposed politically they cover more common ground. The radicals Hitler and Stalin were very similar in approach. The "problem" arises as both radical groups are competing for the control of the hearts and minds of the same socio-economic group, the proletariat, and ultimately seek total power and control at the expense of all others. The big problem is these radicals will go to any extreme to exert their authority over society, Hitler did in Europe, just as Stalin did in Russia

Hi Paul

The horseshoe theory of politics looks a very useful explanatory model.

It is unfortunate that OLO harbours some obsessives with misconceptions of reality that amount to a personal parallel universe. Lets call them "Parallel Obsessives".

To claim Nazism was leftwing socialist is just another attempt to absolve rightwing Hitler and his rightwing thugs from responsibility.

Mavs