Risible rubbish. It's ok to build dream castles in the clouds but not to move in as a permanent resident.

The decline in sensible politics started around the 80s and 90s. Following a post war period of unprecedented prosperity (cooperative capitalism comrade) when we were the third wealthiest nation on earth and a creditor one at that.

Show me one example where privatisation has ever resulted in cheaper fees or prices or a more reliable supply! And indeed, almost alone, enabled today's crippling power prices!
Alan B.

And what Steve S says.
Alan B.

Senator blurting out the C-WORD

Late, late, at night, on the tiles, on the town...

A lucid example of "The decline of sensible politics" is a certain Federal Senator's (who calls herself a "Proud Aboriginal") powers of expression.

Checkout the second paragraph after "She replies"

http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/apr/19/lidia-thorpe-hits-back-as-pm-suggests-health-issues-could-be-behind-strip-club-altercation

Shocked?

So who are the stupid here who vote them into positions of power over us; how can it be argued against the fact that the compliant fools are those who do.

Alan would you please give us some examples of "cooperative capitalism comrade" you are often on about.

As a technical specialist in the raw materials industry in the 60/70s I remember only a very competitive business climate, with everyone wanting to beat the competition.

One of the things I loved was the change to having my clients taking me out to lunch, trying to get me to spend more time with them, showing them the latest techniques & materials being developed in the states.

This was a 2 way street with us developing products we could send back to the states, but I don't remember much cooperative activity between companies.

It was the trendoid Greens of Melbourne who thought it a good token to appoint her to a Senate slot

rather than we the people directly voting for her in the way we vote MPs in.