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Secret talks paving way for Hashemite Kingdom of Palestine : Comments

By David Singer, published 3/3/2023

Amazingly – Jordan's King Abdullah, Hamas's Ismail Haniyeh, PLO Leader Mahmoud Abbas and Saudi Crown Prince – now Prime Minister - Mohammed Bin Salman - have not rejected the Saudi Solution.

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They were done in secret, because like most dirty deals done in the dead of night, they needed to be inadmissible. And there lies the problem and the subsequent silence by key player, Jordan.

I mean it seems to be being made responsible without prior consultation. As for the two-state solution? It would seem to be Israel and then Israel. With various Bedouin camps/homes/shanties, being declared illegal in their own country and traditional land.

The two-state solution is not dead, save in the minds of some Israeli officials with dubious reputations? And one clearly obsessed Singer and storyteller?
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Friday, 3 March 2023 10:22:33 AM
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Dear Alan,

I am very disappointed with you.
You disturbed our patient again and were the first to do so this week - he needs peace and quiet, he will not recover otherwise and this way we would have to keep him in our hospital longer and longer.

Please, if you have to say something, can you do so elsewhere?
Posted by Yuyutsu, Friday, 3 March 2023 11:28:24 AM
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Dear Yuyu,
While I agree with your philosophy on this matter I fear it is too tragic a subject to be spoken (Ewritten) of lightly.
After all the lives and future of many Palestinians is in the balance.
But then again I suppose they never were worth much in the eyes of people like the writer and Benny, were they?.
Posted by ateday, Friday, 3 March 2023 12:57:23 PM
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Ditto to Yuyu.

Off Topic - happy European Day of the Righteous* to all. That Day falls on 6 March, every year.

* The European Day of the Righteous is a celebration established in 2012 by the European Parliament to commemorate those who have stood up against crimes against humanity and totalitarism with their own moral responsibility. By this celebration the concept of Righteous as worked out by Yad Vashem is broadened to all genocide cases and forms of totalitarianism thanks to the commitment of Moshe Bejski.

The European day of the Righteous is celebrated every year on 6 March, the anniversary of Moshe Bejski's** death.

**Moshe Bejski (1921 – 2007) was a Polish-born Israeli Supreme Court Justice and President of Yad Vashem's Righteous Among the Nations Commission.

After surviving the Holocaust with the help of Oskar Schindler
Bejski immigrated to Israel. In 1961, he testified about his experiences during the Holocaust during the trial of Adolf Eichmann.

As President of the Righteous Commission from 1975 to 1991, Bejski helped honor thousands of Holocaust rescuers.
Posted by Maverick, Friday, 3 March 2023 1:03:53 PM
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Dear Ateday and Maverick,

There is nothing you or I can do about Palestinians, the holocaust and the like, but what we can do is to cure our patient by giving him enough peace and quiet, otherwise he will become agitated again and again and never be able to leave our hospital. OLO has accommodated him since 2008 and he is still not cured because our members keep coming and disturbing his treatment. Moreover, his monthly bouts of madness have now become weekly.

So let us do what we can, not what we cannot. Thank you.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Friday, 3 March 2023 1:09:48 PM
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#AlanB #Yuyutsu

I can understand how shell shocked you both are to hear of the secret back-channel negotiations for the last two months between Netanyahu and Abbas - which goes a long way to help explaining what I have been writing about during that time - the remarkable failure of Abbas (and King Abdullah, Ismail Haniyeh and Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed Bin Salman) to reject the Hashemite Kingdom of Palestine solution since its publication nine months ago.

Alan Bs damaged brain is evidenced by his latest nonsensical statement: "The two-state solution is not dead, save in the minds of some Israeli officials with dubious reputations? And one clearly obsessed Singer and storyteller?"

Another person similarly obsessed is Thomas Friedman Op Ed writer for the New York Times:

"A week of reporting from Israel and the West Bank has left me feeling that the prospect for a two-state solution has all but vanished. But no one wants to formally declare it dead and buried — because categorically ruling it out would have enormous ramifications. So, diplomats, politicians and liberal Jewish organizations pretend that it still has a faint heartbeat. I do as well. But we all know that the two-state option is not in a hospital. It’s in hospice. Only a miracle cure could save it now."

Another is Israeli journalist Dimi Reider:
"The two state-solution in Israel-Palestine is dead, and its erstwhile champions—liberal Zionists and foreign diplomats, mainly—are clinging to an obsolete political program, leaving the field wide open to the Israeli right and far right to shape reality as they please."

#Yuyutsu - what say you to this clearly-demented #Alan B?

#Yuyutsau - you are giving you #Alan B the right advice: "Please, if you have to say something, can you do so elsewhere?"

I hope #Yuyutsu that you also take your own advice and join #Alan B on another author's site on OLO where both of you are free to post your wacky self-opinionated, false and unsubstantiated views unchallenged to your hearts' content.
Posted by david singer, Saturday, 4 March 2023 8:39:05 AM
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Mr Singer, you as we do to post your highly reptations broken record comments here. And we have every right to disagree with your wacky take.

Save your derogatory abuse for the nut job in the mirror.

My brain still functions and cogitates quite well thank you. It's almost all that does. You have a nice day now, y'hear.
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Saturday, 4 March 2023 11:20:04 AM
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Dear Alan,

Shhhhhhhhhh.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Saturday, 4 March 2023 8:36:07 PM
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#Alan B

What kind of human being are you?

A Palestinian gunman opening fire outside an east Jerusalem synagogue killing six people and wounding four before police shot him is something you seemingly want to see continued - not ended.

Implementing the Hashemite Kingdom of Palestine solution offers the best hope of ending such terrorist attacks and a conflict that still remains unresolved after 100 years.

My "highly reptations [sic] broken record comments" will continue until the Hashemite Kingdom of Palestine solution or some other yet to be published solution is implemented to replace the dead 2016 UN two-state solution.

Keep reading my articles and choking on them.

You ignorantly and offensively state: "The two-state solution is not dead, save in the minds of some Israeli officials with dubious reputations? And one clearly obsessed Singer and storyteller?" I give you two other non-Israeli officials who confirm my view. You don't even have the decency to withdraw and apologise for your disgraceful comment.You smugly continue to bask in your own ignorance.

Continuing to ignore #Yuyutsu's advice shows what a stupid Jew-hating person and opponent of peace you really are.
Posted by david singer, Sunday, 5 March 2023 9:17:25 AM
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#Yuyutsu

Your sage advice to #Alan B - a blithering Jew-hating idiot who is so full of himself - continues to be ignored by him.

Do you know who he is? Wonder what his family and friends (if any) would think of his anonymous comments? Why is he so ashamed that he continues to comment anonymously? What would his employer or employees (if any) think of him displaying such a total lack of credibility on the Middle East conflict?

Telling him to move to another author's web site to spew out his wacky views may not be enough.

Perhaps he needs to see a psychiatrist. Is that being too harsh?
Posted by david singer, Sunday, 5 March 2023 9:34:55 AM
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In the news this morning, reports of armed Jewish settlers going on a murderous rampage in occupied Palestine. Don't know the death toll but seems to be significant and quite terrifying for women and girls.

It has never ever been one sided and Palestinian death toll at the hand of armed Jews has always been higher than what suicide bombers and Arab gunmen have been able to inflict.

I can't forgive or reconcile with any of it.

Violence always begets violence and overreaction serves the interests of various political identities, who will never ever allow a two-state solution and peaceful cohabitation. Mr Singer shows a level of desperation as he attacks me personally. And seems to be having a mental meltdown?

As for anonymity. It applies to practically everyone here and for very good ethical reasons.

The enraged Singer (and Nazi) solution? Have those that disagree murdered by Mossad/Gestapo? Why else would he want to know where I live and work etc?

I could tell Mr Singer, but I'm sworn to secrecy.

Finally, Mr Singer, in the name of costless civility and common courtesy, let us agree to disagree agreeably!

That said, let's be clear, I will always stand what I believe and say and will continue to do so as robustly as my pen and the censor will allow.

It's called free speech and the first thing the tyrannical attack! If the cap fits? You have a nice day now.
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Sunday, 5 March 2023 10:34:29 AM
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#Alan B

If you "can't forgive or reconcile any part of it" - why do you keep knocking a plan whose implementation will end it?

Still you refuse to withdraw and apologize for your personally offensive and defamatory comment which was untrue and proved by me to be demonstrably false:
"The two-state solution is not dead, save in the minds of some Israeli officials with dubious reputations? And one clearly obsessed Singer and storyteller?"

Now you come up with another example of your paranoia:
"The enraged Singer (and Nazi) solution? Have those that disagree murdered by Mossad/Gestapo? Why else would he want to know where I live and work etc?"

Don't think you are so important that the Mossad would want to hunt you down. Be more concerned that maybe I would like to sue you for defamation.

Are you yet prepared to withdraw and apologise for these two false assertions you have made?

It is not free speech - as you claim. It is unsubstantiated character assassination by a coward who is not prepared to put his name to the comments he makes.
Posted by david singer, Sunday, 5 March 2023 1:15:59 PM
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Defamation MR Singer? One cannot be sued for expressing an opinion. Not for nothing is this site called online opinion! Yes, I do disagree with your opinion as is my right! And robustly so. It was never personal until you made it so with your decent into personal abuse. As opposed to robust debate. I will not be gagged by your threats and attempted intimidation. One can be robust but still civil. And when it comes to abuse, I intend to give as good as I take. have never backed down from bullies, too old to change. You have a nice day now y'hear.
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Sunday, 5 March 2023 7:06:26 PM
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#Alan B

If you are so confident your statements are not defamatory - why not give me your name and address so I can take legal action against you?

Pity you don't take #Yuyutsu's advice and just rack off.

Smoke the peace pipe.

That would be the best outcome for both of us.

I don't often agree with #Yuyutsu but he has got it right this time round.
Posted by david singer, Sunday, 5 March 2023 9:59:53 PM
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Mr S obviously believes that somewhere deeply buried in the sandy wastes of the Middle East somewhere are the, no doubt gold plated, land title deeds that his mythical, and known in faith only, god gave to the particular jewish tribe wandering aimlessly about so many years ago.
They haven`t been found yet and probably never will.
His logic is the same as putin`s in that I can just kick these legal owners out and move in.
No worries.
Posted by ateday, Monday, 6 March 2023 11:45:50 AM
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Dear Ateday,

We should not disturb our patient. I responded to you here:
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=22376#389603
Posted by Yuyutsu, Monday, 6 March 2023 1:13:12 PM
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#ateday

Looking for Israel's title deeds?

Google "Mandate for Palestine" and you will find 5,720,000 references.

If 1922 is not far back enough for you - Google "Bible" and you will find 24,400,000 references

Now I would ask you to answer the following question:"Where are the "Palestinians" title deeds to "Palestine"?

Listen to #Yuyutsu - rack off somewhere else to display your ignorance and Jew hatred.
Posted by david singer, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 12:37:41 PM
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