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Tuvalu, climate change and the metaverse : Comments

By Binoy Kampmark, published 2/12/2022

In the case of the Pacific Island state of Tuvalu, the response is seemingly digital or, as its officials prefer to call it, creating the Digital Nation.

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Great. The mad world can produce virtual human victims; when will real world people be dispatched as surplus to ecological need, and how to do it.

Gassing is tried and proven, leading to more support for right wing NAZI parties.
Mark Zuckerberg, may use his influence and a few spare billions to capture them for the market, to be traded on the stock exchange. A very helpful adjunct for Climate change progressives.

Re-orientation of the view of victim could be productive for profits too.
A focus on the failures of the perfect capitalist society in wealthy donor Countries; in the most part, those already plundered and penny-less , the sick the homeless and the aged, all ripe for harvest for the non-virtual Dutch ovens. The blissful melding of technologies for profit.

Brilliant concept.

Dan.
Posted by diver dan, Friday, 2 December 2022 7:55:31 AM
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It's ok to create dream castles in the cloud. but to move into them as permanent residents, not ok!

This is waving the white flag of surrender to real action on climate change.

There needs to be a class action against all those nations spewing their poisons into the atmosphere and adding to manmade climate change.

Transitioning to renewables may address climate change but not without other harms to the environment.

One of which will be poisoned wild fish stocks. As mountains of toxic waste find their way down rivers and streams into the oceans of the planet.

Instead of capitulation the Pacific ought to have championed a transition post haste to nuclear power! Which will address manmade climate change without tanking economies. Had we already done this, harmful energy driven inflation would now be, nonexistent!

And given the abundance of the mineral that transition ought to be to the world's cheapest, cleanest, safest power source, i.e., walk away safe MSR thorium, which is also carbon free!

MSR thorium only needs replacing once a century, whereas renewables need replacing every 25 years or so and given the cost of battery backed renewables a lose, lose every which way!

Recycling is energy dependent! And often energy costs (the elephant in the room) preclude, even economies of scale, recycling of batteries and solar panels.
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Friday, 2 December 2022 10:10:34 AM
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Well perhaps in the virtual world Tuvalu will indeed sink due to climate change.

In the real world however, it continues to grow rather than sink.
Posted by mhaze, Friday, 2 December 2022 10:13:04 AM
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As the oceans rise and tiny nations like Tuvalu sink beneath the waves, self-delusional nincompoops like MHaze will say, it ain't happening.
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Friday, 2 December 2022 2:36:54 PM
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Alan B,

This will probably go over your head but this is one of many studies that show how the islands are in fact growing....

http://pubs.geoscienceworld.org/gsa/geology/article-abstract/43/6/515/131899/Coral-islands-defy-sea-level-rise-over-the-past?redirectedFrom=fulltext

"no islands have been lost, the majority have enlarged, and there has been a 7.3% increase in net island area over the past century (A.D. 18972013)"

Or this... http://www.bbc.com/news/10222679

""We have now got the evidence to suggest that the physical foundation of these countries will still be there in 100 years, so they perhaps do not need to flee their country."

I suspect you don't actually understand how coral islands exist and grow. But ignorance of the facts has never stopped you from mouthing off before, so why start now.
Posted by mhaze, Friday, 2 December 2022 3:53:33 PM
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Coral grows underwater, so some islands may be growing in circumference as they slowly sink beneath the waves, genius.

As this occurs, genius, freshwater aquifers become saltwater and undrinkable. And salt inundation makes the growing of traditional survival crops, impossible, genius.

The fact that island circumference increases with inundation is not in any way a positive for those who have for centuries lived/survived on them, genius.

Ensure brain is engaged before putting mouth into gear genius and save the verbal abuse for the idiot in the mirror, who clearly is a couple of sheep short in the top paddock.
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Saturday, 3 December 2022 10:57:02 AM
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