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Tuvalu, climate change and the metaverse : Comments

By Binoy Kampmark, published 2/12/2022

In the case of the Pacific Island state of Tuvalu, the response is seemingly digital or, as its officials prefer to call it, creating the Digital Nation.

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Alan you do make a fool of yourself when you shoot your mouth off, with out doing any research on subjects beyond your knowledge.

I suggest you do some research of how coral atolls grow. Then do some research on the current facts of atolls in the Pacific & Indian oceans. You will find we know that over 90% have been growing since satellite evidence became available, & obviously previously, but unknown as we had no method of easily measuring them.

Recent published research has shown that the only atoll islands not growing are of less than 10 acres in size.
Posted by Hasbeen, Saturday, 3 December 2022 12:10:56 PM
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The islands & the sea & the tectonic plates etc etc will continue to do what they've always done along with a little push from idiotic scientists letting off bombs underwater, creating collapsible voids by removing oil & gas et etc.
Anyone still believe the situation can be stopped ? The next civilisation following the next Ice-Age will be wondering just as we do about such things & they too will have scientists & academic experts misguiding them as they've done & still do with this "Civilisation" !
I wonder if future civilisations can get rid of the stupidity that has plagued humans thus far since day 1 !
Posted by Indyvidual, Saturday, 3 December 2022 5:07:29 PM
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Hasbeen. Read me again, I did confirm that coral grows. And for sure that growth has expanded some islands.

But it is killed by heat and cyclones. Does not do well in acidic water which becomes carbonic with the increased absorption of CO2 And as islands sink beneath the waves, provides more habitat for coral and fish, but makes many low laying islands uninhabitable.

If you were living on one of them, we can be sure your (I'm all right Jack) current callous indifference would be replaced with howls of VIP anger. And a rebel yell against all fossil fuel merchants, users and suppliers!

As an islander I don't see you resigning to your fate building dream castles in the cloud but out there in the vanguard, trying to get the world weaned off of fossil fuels.

If there was something that was cheaper, cleaner and safer than all fossil fuels and renewables. And carbon free to boot. As an islander you would be front and centre advocating for the transition!

The fact that you are an old salt makes your current position inexcusable.

But hey, you're alright aren't you.
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Saturday, 3 December 2022 8:44:56 PM
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Utter garbage again Alan.

The physical land area of 90% of atolls is growing. In fact it is heaver weather that throws the grown coral up onto the land to increase the dry land area.

Go do your research, & try to drop the emotive bull dust.
Posted by Hasbeen, Sunday, 4 December 2022 12:28:38 AM
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On the GBR I noticed quite a lot of new coral growth recently !
Fish life is still poor but hey, with so many bogans fishing every day that shouldn't come as a surprise.
Posted by Indyvidual, Sunday, 4 December 2022 6:23:23 AM
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Alan B,

I said the islands were growing rather than sinking.

You, in your usual pompous fashion, asserted that "tiny nations like Tuvalu [were sinking] beneath the waves" and that I was a 'nincompoop' for thinking otherwise.

I provided the evidence to show that indeed the islands were growing not sinking. You know, science-y type stuff.

Since then you tried (unsuccessfully) to try to find a way to talk yourself out of the original cock-up.

Why not just admit you were wrong and move on?
Posted by mhaze, Sunday, 4 December 2022 9:19:18 AM
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