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Russian cannon fodder : Comments

By Bettina Arndt, published 11/10/2022

Why aren't the lives of Russian conscripts worth saving?

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Hi Yuyutsu,
"This is not a behaviour I support, in fact I propose a moratorium on pregnancies in order to reduce human population, but well, it could be an approach which Putin supports."

I don't think so, Putin's offering bonuses for women who have 10 kids.
http://www.cnbc.com/2022/08/18/russia-offers-mother-heroine-medal-and-16800-for-having-10-children.html

Hey Indyvidual,
"The only one to prevent this from becoming a global catastrophe i.i. end of the world as far as humans are concerned, is Zelensky & the people of Ukraine"

West Killed Peace Proposal to end Ukraine war, Russia supported Negotiated Settlement
http://multipolarista.com/2022/09/03/west-peace-proposal-ukraine-russia/
"Russia and Ukraine agreed to a negotiated settlement to end the conflict in April, but British Prime Minister Boris Johnson intervened to stop the peace deal, and the US and EU escalated the proxy war to try to weaken Moscow."
Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 12 October 2022 11:36:21 PM
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Hey Fester,
"I believe it has been a great surprise to western intelligence as to how poorly the Russian army has performed."

I'm not sure Russia's performed as poorly as you suggest, but they've certainly made numerous mistakes.
Putin's exercised enormous restraint with regard to the use of his military power, and hasn't yet committed any more than 20% of his ground force to Ukraine.
I think he was holding out for a negotiated settlement, but has now come to terms with the fact that the West wouldn't allow it.
So now he's going after critical infrastructure and decision making centres, yesterday launching over 200 missiles all over Ukraine, many people right now are without power, internet or running water.
He has shown he knows whats going on in Ukraine and can hit anywhere.

Unless the west stages a false flag by detonating a nuke and blaming it on Putin, Russia is going to launch offensives in the coming months that completely annihilate whatever remains of the Ukrainian armed forces.

Right now I think he's sending troops to Belarus, the thinking is to force Ukraine to divert troops from the other fronts to protect Kiev, which will result in less troops defending in the south and east.

Zelensky's now asking for NATO troops.

The West are now fully invested in this conflict, they're not going to back down, even at the expense of their own citizens and economies, it's probably part of Schwab's Great Reset anyway.

- Anything could happen right now, on the one hand we might see a peace deal offered soon, on the other hand the West might double down with a false flag nuke attack or decide to officially send NATO troops in to defend Kiev.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 12 October 2022 11:46:47 PM
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Dear Yuyutsu,

You wrote: “Let alone whether or not the West is corrupt (I personally believe that only the U.S.A is corrupt, not Europe, not even Canada), no decent person should accept such horrendous atrocities and allow Putin to continue to afflict them.”

I appeal to the Bible. Sodom and Gomorrah were the paradigms of corruption. In Genesis 18 Abraham argues with God about destroying the cities:

31And he said: ‘Behold now, I have taken upon me to speak unto the Lord. Peradventure there shall be twenty found there.’ And He said: ‘I will not destroy it for the twenty’s sake.”

The above is part of a long going argument between Abraham and God. God destroys the cities, but he listens to the pleas of Abraham and allows Lot and his family to flee the destruction. However, even Lot’s family is not free from corruption, and his daughters lie with Lot after getting him drunk.

Genesis 19:30 And Lot went up out of Zoar, and dwelt in the mountain, and his two daughters with him; for he feared to dwell in Zoar; and he dwelt in a cave, he and his two daughters. 31And the first-born said unto the younger: ‘Our father is old, and there is not a man in the earth to come in unto us after the manner of all the earth. 32Come, let us make our father drink wine, and we will lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father.’ 33And they made their father drink wine that night. And the first-born went in, and lay with her father; and he knew not when she lay down, nor when she arose.”

The point of the story is that even in corrupt Sodom and Gomorrah there were virtuous individuals. Even though they lapsed from virtue they were saved from destruction.

I believe no country is completely corrupt or completely virtuous. In present day Russia people are standing up against Putin and suffering for it. In Hitler’s Germany there were people like Dietrich Bonhoeffer. In current US I know many virtuous people.
Posted by david f, Thursday, 13 October 2022 1:24:54 AM
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david f write: "I do not hate all things Christian. "

Well I can only go on what I see and I see someone who has consistently blamed Christianity for all things bad and sought to excuse other religions for their worse behaviour. Here we have a david f-antasyland claim that Islam would have defeated the European Dark Ages and ushered in a European enlightenment and industrial revolution, when, in fact, the evidence is that Islam, in the lands it controlled, ultimately created a sustained dark ages which was only alleviated when the Christian west dragged them, kicking and screaming into the modern world.

Thinking that the enlightenment and industrial revolution could have happened anywhere other than in a Christian west, fundamentally misunderstands the forces behind those advancements.

Still if you don't want to offer Christianity any of the credit then why not just create a david f-antasyland where it never happened.

Me? I'll remain in the real world.
Posted by mhaze, Thursday, 13 October 2022 8:17:09 AM
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"I'm not sure Russia's performed as poorly as you suggest, "

A pithy summary of the last six months.

At the start of the war we all thought Russia had the second best army in the world. We now know they have the second best army in Ukraine.
Posted by mhaze, Thursday, 13 October 2022 8:19:16 AM
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Hi AC,

Restraint? A quarter of a million troops, with about half that number killed or injured, and almost 50,000 war machines deployed, a third of which have been captured or destroyed. As to whether Putin has committed 20% of his ground force is anyone's guess. With all the corruption in his military it it hard to know how much of his "on paper" army is actually deployable.

Also, the army is systematically murdering and displacing the population as well as destroying all in their path and targeting civilian infrastructure across Ukraine, all under orders from the top.

As you know AC, I believe that Russia could be the most developed and prosperous nation on earth were it not run by cleptocratic gangsters. My take on the Russian army in Ukraine is that its forces are close to the point of being critically depleted: Once their front lines start failing they will have serious problems. They are starting to lose a lot more artillery.
Posted by Fester, Thursday, 13 October 2022 7:58:12 PM
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