What normal person wants to talk about suicide!

How exquisite to see the dog-pack running from itself!

Dan.

'The truth is that we all feel guilty and ashamed when someone we know commits suicide.'

Utter rubbish. I've never ever felt that.

I feel and say loudly here, Suicide is the cowards choice. I just pity the coward. It was their choice,

WE had nothing to do with it.

We used to not talk about it for that reason. not because ... well the wishy washy excuses the author throws out.
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If that was put about rather than 'treatments', there would in all likelihood be less suicides.

The invidious acceptance that meddling only has positive outcomes whereas in fact it could just, as a nuance, be as easily the pandering to a pretender looking for attention, isn't even considered.

That view that such help aims at satisfing the 'helper's' ego, would just as likely be seen or sensed by the coward and then ignored by the coward, is never ever considered.

'But oh, at least we had tried ...' did I hear you say?

I disagree with all the above comments! Suicide is never without cause or causers. For every effect there is a cause and for every cause their is an effect!

Young gay men raised as devout Christians seem to predominate as they're brain washed to believe their natural, God given sexual bias is evil and something they choose!

Those that persecute them with their BS beliefs are the cause factor! And wave away their role with BS claims that people choose suicide. And absolute BS rubbish, people who take their own lives are driven to it!

One suicide is one too many! Let truth and irrefutable evidence decide what we force other to believe not medieval Witch-doctors pointing bones, i.e. fundamental religious fanatics claiming to know the mind of the creator!
Alan B.

Suicide is the cowards choice.
imajulianutter,
That's just typical of Uni indoctrinated nonsense. For someone to take that final step things are going terribly bad due to mainly other people, particularly those who don't give a second thought. These uncaring are mostly in authority & the public service.
The only time people end their life voluntarily is due to terminal illness. All other suicides are brought on by the above-mentioned ! Just read up on the doings of outfits such as Centrelink, the Judiciary, family law courts, child protection rackets, Insurance companies, EPA, Councils etc.
They're the ones driving decent people to that point !

In cases where life is unbearable, there seems little hope of it getting better and there is no one who would be disturbed by your suicide why not commit suicide? If anything is ours to do with as we will it is our life. Suicide may be our best option. If Hitler, Alexander the Great, Torquemada and others who caused great misery by their acts had committed suicide before they did what they are noted for doing much suffering would have been avoided.

Here is a member of the establishment who tries to drown out the last voices of protest, who calls on young people to betray and dob in their friends who find no other way to escape or revolt against the system.

I could imagine myself as a young university student, one too many, lacking the blessings of saints and the wisdom I now by God's grace have, facing an empty life as a cogwheel, a number, a statistic, a piece of data, pressed hard between government and corporations to live by serving these beasts in a meaningless digital jungle - that being so, I could well imagine myself too performing that final protest.

Mr. Schwartz, there was no need for you to attend these memorial services, you only did so for your own prestige, your most unwelcome presence there desecrated the memory of these victims of the establishment of which you are part, who never asked or wanted you to be there.

I

I'm not university/super tafe trained. I'm self educated. If you saw my bibliography and Library you'd be truely astonished.

As for the comments critical of mine ... well that's why most of the world in the so-called educated elites influence is in such a mess and crumbling.

As for academia the Yanks are starting universities unaffiliated with the current idiots and without bureaucrat run funding..

That's the future of education and higher learning.

the Yanks are starting universities unaffiliated with the current idiots and without bureaucrat run.
imajulianutter,
I think it's high time they also came up with a new term to disassociate themselves from the traditional Academics so as to gain public respect when it is truly earned instead of just flashing some tickets gotten at a good price from some Uni !

I disagree with the article. While its just ridiculous to go removing books in order to protect "vulnerable" students, that doesn't mean we need to be talking about suicide. In fact we do far too much talking about suicide already. "Mental Health" in general has of late become a badge of honour amongst the young and foolish. Whilst suicide used to be stigmatized and shamed, it is now more likely to be attractive to a young person due to the attention one gets from peers and others. Everyone wants to feel special, and being the "suicidal Girl" is a very easy way to be special. Not to mention the Werther Effect.