The antiquated battle for the Kingdom!

Move on.

The emerging world before us is; http://thenetworkstate.com/

Dan

World war one. That was last century wasn't it? And also what was decided/imposed by Britain, then, also negotiable!

If there are to be negotiations!? Then Israel must abandon the occupied territories and stop the war crimes of annexing much of the same! And the starting point!
Alan B.

Here comes the regular weekly attack on Israel and Jordan...

"His Majesty King Abdullah II meets Israeli Prime Minister Yair Lapid; reaffirms need to create political horizon to achieve just, comprehensive, lasting peace on basis of two-state solution and bolster regional security, stability, and development, which must include Palestinians"

Oh no, they must have been talking about me... they must have been criticising my hair-style... what else is there to talk about?

Everyone knows what "two-state solution" means in this context, it has been discussed over and over for decades and nobody thinks that it includes Austria or Venezuela, so why Jordan?

"finally ending the conflict over the division of former Palestine between Arabs and Jews begun with the defeat of Turkey in World War 1."

What Jews?

That was when the Southern Syrians (who much later called themselves "Palestinians" for tactical reasons) became extremely upset about their forced separation from their Northern Syria brethren by the Sykes–Picot Agreement. Their anger was towards the British and French, not the yet-insignificant Jews!

"Jordanians and Palestinians are Sunni Arabs from the same region and integrating them will not cause any ethnic or sectarian fault lines in the long run."

Jordanians, at least their established classes, are proud and cultured Bedouins, not Syrians!

"2. The right of return to Israel by Palestinian Arab refugees will not be pursued. Instead The Hashemite Kingdom of Palestine will integrate those refugees within its borders"

Any Jordanian would rather swallow a COVID-filled sponge than accommodate these angry, frustrated and viper-like hostile mob of refugees.

"4. The retention by Israel of the Jordan Valley and other areas of the West Bank will be resolved in the negotiations"

The Jordan valley is the most fertile area within both the West Bank and Jordan itself. If Jordan ever had any incentive to acquire lands west of the Jordan river due to its food shortages, then that's gone too!

"Any agreement will need to be ratified by a free popular referendum by all Jordanians"

Great, sigh, that on its own would be sufficient to assure that this madness will never happen!

#Alan B

Your starting point is not what the Saudi plan proposes. You are a waste of space.

It appears that you have not even read the Saudi Plan. Am I right?

#Yuyutsu

The Saudi proposal makes everything you have wasted your time on railing against week after week look so dumb and stupid doesn't it?
Try and calm down, let the negotiations between Israel and Jordan to implement the Saudi plan hopefully get a start on soon - and see what happens.

For once - try to stop blowing your own trumpet and understand the significance of the plan the Saudis have come up with that could finally end the 100 years of conflict between Arabs and Jews.

Dear David,

For once - try to stop blowing your own trumpet!

Any part of the West Bank or Gaza that is annexed by Jordan (along with its native population, assuming you do not plan to empty that land by killing them first) spells the end of Jordan and a grave threat to Israel.

But why would you care?

It was already made clear that your interest in all this is, and always been, to end what you describe as "the 100 years of conflict between Arabs and Jews".

Nevermind I time and again disputed your presumption about the existence of such a conflict, nevermind you were never able to show that such a conflict actually exists, let us suppose just for a moment that it does - you never explained to us WHY you want that "conflict" to end, moreover, how come ending that "conflict" is so important to you that you are willing to sacrifice both Israel and Jordan in the process.

Explicitly, suppose your [and the Saudi] plan goes ahead, ending the "Arab/Jewish conflict", but with the "small side-effect" that my family along with the other citizens of Israel (about 6.8 millions of them Jewish) is kicked out and drowns in the Mediterranean sea. Do you expect me to be jolly happy about it just as you are?

Can you still call yourself a Jewish lover?
Your unexplained reason(s) for ending this "conflict" become more mysterious than ever - or is what drives you just plain old Anti-Semitism?

#Yuyutsu

Tut,tut...

Have you even read the 2022 Saudi Peace Plan? From the ignorance displayed in your comment I would say not.

When you have read it - I will be more than happy to answer your objections to any of its proposals.

Dear David,

Did you mean this nonsense? http://english.alarabiya.net/in-translation/2022/06/08/The-Hashemite-Kingdom-of-Palestine

The author admits to being an Israel-hater (yet he tries to be realistic).

The specific problem he tries to solve is "the Palestinian problem", which is neither anything I care about nor your silly invented "100 years of conflict between Arabs and Jews" (and you still failed to provide a reason for your wanting to end it!).

Fine: he's an Arab after all.
Should Israel be destroyed as a result, the author would only rejoice.
Should Jordan be taken by Syria as a result, he wouldn't care either (both Sunni Arabs, aren't they?).

The author is either blind or deliberately lies when claiming that "Jordanians and Palestinians are as similar as any people can be", well for him, a Saudi, perhaps they both are equally just trouble which could destabilise his country.

The author is happy to ask the "Palestinians" (wherever they live) to ratify this plan - but how about asking Israelis and Jordanians too? no, for him they don't count!

The author admits to strong resistance from "some “East Jordanian” elites" (in fact the vast majority of Jordanians, that he wouldn't say), but believes that somehow... Israel, among others...would convince them otherwise - that Israel would sign its own death warrant... Ha Ha Ha.

The author considers the possibility of "Palestinians" rejecting the deal, but fails to look at the most likely scenario, of them verbally pretending to accept the deal, then the following day turning from within against these gullible "East Jordanians" and handing both East and West banks on a silver platter to their real champion - Bashar Assad!

The author fears (irrationally) that "Israel could forcibly kick out the Palestinians into Jordan and Egypt in a genocidal war and, in the process, destroy the Jordanian state as we know it today.", so how come Israel didn't do it already? Because Israel is wise enough to recognise that it NEEDS its ally "Jordan as we know it today" (and Egypt) to prevent the East-Bank of the Jordan river from falling in the hands of Syria, Russia and Iran.

#Yuyutsu

There you go again - attacking the messenger and ignoring the message.
Read the message and for once try to absorb and understand it.

Dear David,

I have read the message and understand it very well: serves the interests of some Saudis, serves the interests of the Southern-Syrians (who call themselves "Palestinians") - How? By destroying their hated states, Israel and Jordan, by letting these Southern-Syrians infiltrate their ranks then handing the whole region to Syria, Iran and Russia.

Hitler killed 6 million Jews - now some Saudis, Southern-Syrians and other collaborators conspire to kill another 6.8 Israeli Jews, including my family. Bottom line, this is a plot to murder my family in Israel: it is just a matter of time before your organisation, "Jordan is Palestine", will be exposed as a terrorist organisation!

Correction: in my rage about this conspiracy to kill my family, I inadvertently omitted the word "million". Obviously this Saudi conspiracy is to kill 6.8 MILLION Jews (not just 6.8 Jews).

#Yuyutsu

Rave on McDuff. You are a total waste of space.

Dear David,

Your country seems to be a total waste of space - how about dividing Syria between Jordan, Turkey, Lebanon and Iraq?

Actually, some of that land ought to be allocated for a free Kurdistan!