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The message China's security deal with the Solomon Islands sends to Australia, New Zealand and the United States : Comments

By Jeffrey Wall, published 22/4/2022

But when you look elsewhere among what the Prime Minister and Foreign Minister call our 'Pacific Family' it is not hard to find examples of our diminished and diminishing influence.

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Apart from the confirmation of your 'Australianness', I don't have the faintest idea of what you are on about.

What do you mean by:

. "When will you all pay attention?"

."I DO NOT SUPPORT economic war against other countries by the West and their sanctions.
And I also do not support overthrowing other peoples countries as it suits the US to do inserting rulers more favorable to their own interests.
Not now, and NOT EVER.
END OF STORY."

None of that has any relevance to your original post.

. "Do you not understand that all nations money is loaned into existence?". WTF?

The last one I will ignore as being from some nutter on the WWW.

On your last post - where do I find the "list of countries the US has overthrown". What once independent countries has the US 'overthrown'. Are you sure you know what that word means?

" UKRAINE.

I've gone over all of this here on the forum many many times in the past."

You might have done. But what has Ukraine got to do with SI, which is where you started? Like the other material in your second and third posts, it has nothing to do with your original post on SI - the one I commented on.

I really can't be bothered with the rest of your tirade.

I will make sure that I don't look at, or certainly not comment on, your posts in future. I honestly think that you are off your trolley or on something very strong.
Posted by ttbn, Saturday, 23 April 2022 10:21:46 PM
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A round of applause Armchair Critic, a round of applause!

Dan.
Posted by diver dan, Saturday, 23 April 2022 10:23:36 PM
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Interesting how quiet New Caledonia, NZ, Indonesia & others nearby remained over this !
Posted by individual, Sunday, 24 April 2022 5:49:14 PM
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My first post was about 'democracy'

Why do people bang on about democracy but spit in the face of it when countries choose other nations don't like?

Who are we or the US for that matter to decide what is and isn't best for them?

Look at what you wrote:
>> "US delegation warns Solomon Islands prime minister over security pact with China. If Beijing maintains a military presence in the Solomons, White House says US will ‘respond accordingly’". (South China Post).<<

How unlike Australia. Does that make Morrison weaker than Biden? Or, are things here worse than we think, and we can do sweet FA about anything China does. <<

You're implying that we should also be imposing our will upon them as well were you not?
How is it democracy for them if we or the US decide their countries policies?
Seems like you support democracy, but only as long as their policies suitable to us?

I looked at the link you added for the SCMP and looked at what the US was quoted as saying their response is - 'Build an Embassy'

Why shouldn't I see that as a potential threat to overthrow the country?
That's what the US does after all.

Ukraine was just a side note, pointing that this damn war and all that's occurred was the fault of the US overthrowing the country in 2014, but you probably don't know that.

I was pointing out that this is what happens from US Embassies.

Watch that linked video 'All Wars are Bankers Wars'
You might find the world works in a completely different way than what you think it does.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 24 April 2022 7:29:13 PM
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Sorry - a mistake in my previous comment.
It should have read:
"Why do people bang on about democracy but spit in the face of it when countries choose *POLICIES other nations don't like?"
Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 24 April 2022 8:02:03 PM
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With respect Armchair Critic and ttbn- I think you are both correct.

I found the comment interesting- "All Wars are Bankers Wars" similar to the "All wars are fascist wars".

There are practical survival issues in the world that sometimes trump issues of principle- if China controls key resources and resource chains in the world- it will be very bad. Stiglitz talks about the Efficient Market Hypothesis- based on the idea that everyone has basically the same access to information and acts in their own interest- this way Adam Smith's invisible hand moves to ensure that capital, resources, labour go to where they are needed benefiting everyone. According to Stiglitz the weak and strong forms of the EMH are wrong. It's similar in politics- principles are good they can create stability, trust, cooperation but they have limitations. There are times one does need to stick to ones principles even if it disadvantages oneself- but sometimes one has to realise that there are those that only want power- perhaps. I don't have all the answers
Posted by Canem Malum, Monday, 25 April 2022 4:32:34 AM
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