Andras Smith said- "CM: Not even worth responding to when you simply 'shoot messengers'"

Answer- Yes- I perceived your shooting of my message- using what I perceived as blinkered leftist propaganda tactics- is the reason I responded in the form I did.

Maybe if you were less oblique or more clear I would be less likely to "misinterpret" your message.

Good point Andras Smith on the concept of "messenger shooters"- but there is a difference between messengers and propagandists.

Andras Smith said- "Since the time of Howard Australians have been nudged way from Asia and the Pacific, often with quite a bit of dog whistling, towards arrogant Anglosphere. It became worse under Abbott with DFAT cuts and like others e.g. Downer, Hockey et al. they neglected both Asia and the Pacific to serve the interests of the UK Tories and/or US GOP, especially including Brexit, Trump & Pompeo on China, as 'foreign agents', like Murdoch too."

Answer- Are you saying that the reason South East Asia/ Northern Australasia is rejecting Australia is because Australia have insulted and ignored them? If that is your argument I would counter by saying that South East Asia/ Northern Australasia need to show some commitment to improvement and personal responsibility for their own problems- so they can be a valued member of an Australasian Commonwealth rather than wasting Australian time and money- and then asking for more.

Anyway thanks Andras Smith for your feedback.

AC: 'Russia is achieving its military objectives in Ukraine', really, what evidence is there for this?

Because that's what a USMC Military Intelligence Officer / UN Weapons Inspector who helped plan Desert Storm in Iraq laid out in full detail.

And it correlates and clarifies many things I already knew.
You wont get this information on our news networks though.
All you'll get from them is lies and narrative.

Scott Ritter: A Conversation About Ukraine Part 1.
http://youtu.be/-fNrnWxXhP0

Scott Ritter: A Conversation About Ukraine Part 2.
http://youtu.be/jQSTHvD2z1c

Putin's already taken territory close to the size of England.

- But we're only just getting started.
The West is going all in, things are about to heat up really soon I think.
I hope you're all ready for a larger war, because things are going to spiral out of control.
There's no hiding the fact that EU states, NATO, the US and other western countries including ours are already in a proxy war with Russia.
It's inevitable, I don't think there's any stopping it now.
- and we're all might find out that Russia's wasn't bluffing.

You do realise they have enough nukes to destroy the planet several times over?

CM: Still, what are you offering, i.e. credible analysis, that can be interrogated?

AC: Scott Ritter does not have credibility, even if he did, you'd need several others to support whatever he promotes, which is unclear but simply anecdotal or opinion.

My issue is the Anglocentric views of people in nations far away from the conflict, without any suffering any impact personally of Putin's actions, vs. reverberations on others e.g. EU & other border nations.

Well, Well, Well

Quote myself "You know how I read that?
I read that as this - The US is now preparing to overthrow the country.
FYI, US Embassies are US Overthrow Headquarters."

Sogavare "In other words, we are threatened with invasion"
http://youtu.be/Rpmowynmt6M

So how long ago was that, 12 days ago I wrote that?
[Rolls eyes] So who's stupid, me or you lot?