Walk away mate!

Appealing to Australia for anything that resembles any common recognisable response to human reality, is futile.

Here we are as Australians, living in a world thrust upon us by a very minority band of home grown terrorists, who have usurped the legitimacy of all levels of Government authority, with lunatic ideology.

At this stage of social decay, we are bound to it, as we watch an entire generation of our youth, disenfranchised from the order of society their parents grew up in: Never to be afforded the rights of their parents, to the most fundamental of human needs, housing.

Let me highlight this. Our Governments you so regularly appeal to through these pages, are so removed from everyday reality of its subjects, as to ignore their plight.

Add to this, the same generation of rejects, are subjected to anti social gender indoctrination which so confuses them into thinking the abnormal and rare biological failure of nature, is actually everybody’s choice in the new enlightened age of gender bender misfit ruling classes; those to whom you direct your appeals for sane reaction.

Australia deserves a Chinese invasion, and left to the Greens and it’s Labor suck-Up Party, will get one.

But we that are left to grow old, can envision effortlessly, the ease by which this event will happen, the Chinese will be invited in: The proof is in the historic pudding!

And more depressingly (and humiliatingly so), our favourite Uncle is now in minder mode, by a six foot Easter Bunny, directing his every utterance.

Best of luck with your forward thinking Islanders mate, they are actually street-wise and ahead of the bunch, it’s why they are recruited to play football!

Dan.

"But the Solomon Islands is a lost cause"; and must now be regarded as an enemy state unworthy of any further charity from Australia.

Are Australia's security agencies "watching closely what China might be planning for the Southern PNG coast"? If so, will they continue to be just spectators as they have been with the SI? Australia is very much 'looking, looking', 'talking, talking' - and not much else. Besides, would throwing more money at PNG have any more effect than it has had in SI?

And, how can we "encourage" US attention on Chinese aggression in the region when we haven't been spending enough on our own defence, and we might soon have a Labor government with little interest in our sovereignty, aided by Greens who see no threat from China and would like defence spending slashed to a pittance.

And, remember, we are white people in a sea of non-white people, with half-witted, treachorous Australians telling those non-whites how bad we are, and how they should hate us for all we have done to them.

One comment seen this morning: "But short of bribing the Solomons PM, what could the Morrison government have done without being accused of bullying a sovereign micro-nation".

This is what the SI opposition leader suggested the Chinese had done.

treacherous Australians telling those non-whites how bad we are, and how they should hate us
ttbn,
Leftist Uni indoctrinated social engineering at its best !

So? And as we, correction, our leaders were asleep at the wheel? Let's hope you are right with regard to PNG's next parliament? And tell the enslaving CCP to F.O.
Alan B.

Dan you argue well for social housing etc. And then F it up as usual with your endless obsession with other folks God given sexual bias.

None of which affects you and what consenting adults do in privacy, is simply none of you effing business! And simply has no bearing on the social issues you argue for! But rather is very counterproductive on your well argued social commentary.

The world is round not flat! And we know this through irrefutable evidence. Just as we know there is a gay gene! At least two and probably five at the very least? And unaccepted by the, seriously immature, gay bashing community

Why aren't you out there giving the lefties what for for choosing to be lefties? Which was the conventional wisdom when I first went to school. So, there is a left handed gene! Who would have thought? It's in the genes mate! Grow up and take a look at the evidence, why doncha!
Alan B.

There is a message and that message is, get ready to defend this nation and freedom, if you value your freedom and our democracy!
Alan B.

Here, here and well said, ttbn.
Alan B.

get ready to defend this nation and freedom,
Alan B,
You'd recall all my posts re National Service & the numerous objections to it ? You reckon the present situation & the prospects staring at us might sway some of these objections ?

As others have intimated- Chinese Belt and Road appears to be a back bone strategy to control world energy in the Middle East- financed by control of colonial ports (including Darwin) along the route.

Kudos Diver Dan.

Even if it doesn't suit us, China is looking & planning ahead for China, something too many who call themselves Australian could never comprehend.
What's stopping Australia from forging ahead ? The Left & its henchmen, the unions & half-witted Academics, facilitated by greed-soaked bureaudroids !

The Left appear to be agents for the CCP.

Our response cannot be a repeat of too little too late with regard to national security. And if that means national service? So be it! Others served as Nashos and it didn't hurt them, just made them team players and better more independent self reliant people, for the experience.

That said, our response to the latest threat must include a nuclear capability! And MSR thorium nuclear power to restart local manufacture and copious alternative fuel supplies.

Lectern thumping and sabre rattling, finger pointing, rhetoric can only inflame the hostile entity.

We need unity and simply cracking on with rearming and reinforcing to the point where the price paid by any intending foe is far too great for the prize! And getting up to speed, militarily, after the invasion a la Ukraine, is not advisable, is it?
Alan B.

Now is not the time for the fifth column to divide us along left and right! We are all Australians and in it together!

Saying anything else, is like saying the lefties in the Ukraine initiated the invasion of their homeland! It's all just fifth column B.S. writ large.

Put an effing sock in it C.M. and crawl back into your hole or your Chinese operator!
Alan B.

Labor saying the Morrison Govt. could have prevented the China-Solomon Islands is about clearest display of their incompetence & ignorance yet.
Anyone who believes Australia could have swayed the Solomon Island Govt. not to go with China is nothing short certifiable.
Labor Git nr 3 Plibersek, said the Pacific islanders' main concern is Climate change yet they align themselves with the greatest polluter on the planet ? Surely, their carbon footprint will help lower the sea level of the Pacific.
Also Alan B, you're in all probability scarily close with your remark re the Left in Ukraine.

Alan B said "Now is not the time for the fifth column to divide us along left and right! We are all Australians and in it together! Saying anything else, is like saying the lefties in the Ukraine initiated the invasion of their homeland! It's all just fifth column B.S. writ large. Put an effing sock in it C.M. and crawl back into your hole or your Chinese operator!"

Answer- With respect Alan B- I see the problem as similar to the bath problem.
The Chinese and Communists and Woke and and Minorities are seeking power disproportionate with their representation- do you turn off the external tap or the internal tap. But yes you shouldn't fight a battle on too many fronts. But sometimes you can come up with commonalities in both- a weapon that destroys both opponents at once- and makes the nation secure in one blow. It takes bold courage and decisiveness.

We are often known by what we hate. I'm sorry that you hate me- as is indicated by your response. You could have merely asked why I see things the way I do- but- your chose a different path.

I can understand that those seeking to come to a consensus are sometimes frustrated by those that don't believe that consensus is possible because they see their negotiating partner as irrational in the sense that they are not debating in good faith. It's easier to derail a negotiation that to build trust. It's about trust- in this case- do you trust the left and their pet and foreign communists. The current state of consciousness of the soft and hard left as well as the soft and hard "Freedom Movement/ Locke Liberal" only understands power. Perhaps you can study negotiation tactics to understand things better.

I can understand that you might be frustrated Alan B- but I'll continue to represent things according to particular perspicacity

"US delegation warns Solomon Islands prime minister over security pact with China. If Beijing maintains a military presence in the Solomons, White House says US will ‘respond accordingly’". (South China Post).

How unlike Australia. Does that make Morrison weaker than Biden? Or, are things here worse than we think, and we can do sweet FA about anything China does.

You all talk as though the Solomon Islands or anywhere else in the region where we purchased some 'influence' don't have any right to choose things for themselves, and personally it offends me.

You talk about democracy on the one hand
And then on the other hand you're jumping up and down
- when democracy returns a result that you don't like.

I just read some of the article ttbn alluded to.
http://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3175267/us-delegation-warns-solomon-islands-prime-minister-over

"The White House also said it would expedite the opening of a US embassy in Honiara, the island nation’s capital, and the two countries agreed to initiate a strategic dialogue and a programme on maritime domain awareness as well as advance a range of other initiatives."

You know how I read that?
I read that as this - The US is now preparing to overthrow the country.
FYI, US Embassies are US Overthrow Headquarters.

Take a look at this list, but scroll down to the bottom
What does it say?

http://williamblum.org/essays/read/overthrowing-other-peoples-governments-the-master-list

"Q: Why will there never be a coup d’état in Washington?
A: Because there’s no American embassy there."

That's not just there for fun and jokes, it's real
- That's how they operate.

I'll tell you all something about democracy.
- It's NEVER EVER been about the best interests of the people
Democracy is a front-company, and do you all know what the real business is?
WESTERN MONETARY IMPERIALISM

You all talk as though imperialism is bad.
But none of you can see the bigger picture.

Personally regarding Solomon Islands, I think its created an interesting situation.
Because now you have a communist country aligned with and supporting a democratic one.
And you can bet if the US tries to overthrow the country with it's 5th column agendas;
- That the Chinese will defend Sogavare from being ousted.

To the Solomon Islanders I say this to you.

If you care about your country.
If you don't want it to become a target of liberal intervention.
If you don't want protests or a civil war
If you don't want your men killed or dead women and kids just like we see in Ukraine.

THEN DO NOT EVER LET THE UNITED STATES BUILD AN EMBASSY ON YOUR SOIL.

- Once it's built there's no turning back.

Just like the US is happy to fight right down to the last conscripted Ukrainian, just to get at their bigger fish RUSSIA
They will also be happy for your country to enter into a full state of civil war, if that's what it takes for a little bit of pushback against China.

MARK MY WORDS.

AC

Are you going all woke on us, mate? You are personally offended. The Solomons PM is a great offence taker. Has he appointed you his 'Offence Taker to Australia': a bit like an ambassador, but whingier?

How even Solomon Islanders could 'take offence' at one of their benefactor's objections to them putting it at risk is bad enough; but an Australian! You are Australian, are you not?

Who says that 'democracy' has anything to do with the SI government sucking up to China, the greatest threat to the Indo Pacific, for money. Was there a referendum passed by SI voters for this extremely selfish, ungrateful, dangerous agreement by their government, a government that is regularly rioted against because of anti-Chinese feelings?

You clearly don't believe in democracy yourself: "I'll tell you all something about democracy.
- It's NEVER EVER been about the best interests of the people
Democracy is a front-company, and do you all know what the real business is?
WESTERN MONETARY IMPERIALISM".

That's what you say.

You also say: "You all talk as though imperialism is bad.
But none of you can see the bigger picture."

What?

"To the Solomon Islanders I say this to you".

You have a substantial audience in SI, do you?

I don't think many people will respond positively to your "MARK MY WORDS" instruction, AC, particularly as the words are based on stuff you have Googled. You need a good rest.

The Yankers have made yet another statement of "serious consequences if China sets up a base in the Solomons". As "serious" as in Ukraine ?
After hundreds of Billions of Dollars to the UN do people really expect to go against China which is even more powerful than Ras Putin's great grandson's outfit ?
I really wish the insipid ignorant Lefties would crawl back into their holes & just shut tfu !
Had those hundreds of Billions spent on the planet rather than the UN we'd all be living in peace by now.

Yeah of course I'm Australian.
Great Grandfather was a Lighthorseman at Gallipoli and promoted to CO when his was shot.

When will you all pay attention?

I DO NOT SUPPORT economic war against other countries by the West and their sanctions.
And I also do not support overthrowing other peoples countries as it suits the US to do inserting rulers more favorable to their own interests.
Not now, and NOT EVER.
END OF STORY.

Do you not understand that all nations money is loaned into existence?

All Wars are Bankers Wars
http://youtu.be/Us58XnwBePU

ttbn
Maybe you should have another look at that list of countries the US has overthrown.
What does it say down the bottom mate?

UKRAINE.

I've gone over all of this here on the forum many many times in the past.

I don't want a WWIII because America wants to wage economic war on Autocratic nations / nuclear armed members of the UN Security Council.

If you want to fight Russia, or if you want to fight China.
Then grab your rifle, grab your jumpsuit and have them parachute you in.
We'll let them know your coming.

The West is NOT BETTER or in any MORALLY RIGHT for doing this stuff.
They are just hypocrites.
They are the aggressors.
They spit on democracy.
And they don't care how many people die, to further the agendas of globalists and other technocrats.

The second you step foot off our shores and onto anothers.
You're not defending our country, you're invading someone else's.

You think I support spending millions of dollars to gift to other nations when we cant even house flood victims?
Or when I'm hated for being white man in my own country?
This country isn't worth fighting for, we're just a vassal state in of western 'democracy' ruled by people in Brussels.

AC

Apart from the confirmation of your 'Australianness', I don't have the faintest idea of what you are on about.

What do you mean by:

. "When will you all pay attention?"

."I DO NOT SUPPORT economic war against other countries by the West and their sanctions.
And I also do not support overthrowing other peoples countries as it suits the US to do inserting rulers more favorable to their own interests.
Not now, and NOT EVER.
END OF STORY."

None of that has any relevance to your original post.

. "Do you not understand that all nations money is loaned into existence?". WTF?

The last one I will ignore as being from some nutter on the WWW.

On your last post - where do I find the "list of countries the US has overthrown". What once independent countries has the US 'overthrown'. Are you sure you know what that word means?

" UKRAINE.

I've gone over all of this here on the forum many many times in the past."

You might have done. But what has Ukraine got to do with SI, which is where you started? Like the other material in your second and third posts, it has nothing to do with your original post on SI - the one I commented on.

I really can't be bothered with the rest of your tirade.

I will make sure that I don't look at, or certainly not comment on, your posts in future. I honestly think that you are off your trolley or on something very strong.

A round of applause Armchair Critic, a round of applause!

Dan.

Interesting how quiet New Caledonia, NZ, Indonesia & others nearby remained over this !

My first post was about 'democracy'

Why do people bang on about democracy but spit in the face of it when countries choose other nations don't like?

Who are we or the US for that matter to decide what is and isn't best for them?

Look at what you wrote:
>> "US delegation warns Solomon Islands prime minister over security pact with China. If Beijing maintains a military presence in the Solomons, White House says US will ‘respond accordingly’". (South China Post).<<

How unlike Australia. Does that make Morrison weaker than Biden? Or, are things here worse than we think, and we can do sweet FA about anything China does. <<

You're implying that we should also be imposing our will upon them as well were you not?
How is it democracy for them if we or the US decide their countries policies?
Seems like you support democracy, but only as long as their policies suitable to us?

I looked at the link you added for the SCMP and looked at what the US was quoted as saying their response is - 'Build an Embassy'

Why shouldn't I see that as a potential threat to overthrow the country?
That's what the US does after all.

Ukraine was just a side note, pointing that this damn war and all that's occurred was the fault of the US overthrowing the country in 2014, but you probably don't know that.

I was pointing out that this is what happens from US Embassies.

Watch that linked video 'All Wars are Bankers Wars'
You might find the world works in a completely different way than what you think it does.

Sorry - a mistake in my previous comment.
It should have read:
"Why do people bang on about democracy but spit in the face of it when countries choose *POLICIES other nations don't like?"

With respect Armchair Critic and ttbn- I think you are both correct.

I found the comment interesting- "All Wars are Bankers Wars" similar to the "All wars are fascist wars".

There are practical survival issues in the world that sometimes trump issues of principle- if China controls key resources and resource chains in the world- it will be very bad. Stiglitz talks about the Efficient Market Hypothesis- based on the idea that everyone has basically the same access to information and acts in their own interest- this way Adam Smith's invisible hand moves to ensure that capital, resources, labour go to where they are needed benefiting everyone. According to Stiglitz the weak and strong forms of the EMH are wrong. It's similar in politics- principles are good they can create stability, trust, cooperation but they have limitations. There are times one does need to stick to ones principles even if it disadvantages oneself- but sometimes one has to realise that there are those that only want power- perhaps. I don't have all the answers

Armchair Critic

I’ve another slant on the Ukraine war I’ve never seen discussed: it starts with a question, and looks for Russian motivation.
Putin refers to Nazi influences in Ukraine. His can only be a reference in that context to Jews.

Jews have been traditionally and progressively, the enemy of the Russian State post Tsarist.
The Russian diaspora of Jews were labeled Nazis, and are known more broadly as the Refuseniks, since as a group were denied among many things, an exit visas to relocate to Israel.

Putin is ex-KGB with its culture alive and well. The KGB was a major instrument in Jewish persecution.

Added to that, Ukraine President Zelenskyy is a very minority Jew. Ask why wouldn’t Ukraine, a country very predominantly orthodox Christian have a similarly aligned head of State?

Which leads to another question: Zelenskyy was accused of working for a Ukrainian oligarchy in Ukrainian media. He was “hot” to excuse the accusation of double standards.
So now another question: is this war actually a war motivated by Ukrainian Jewish oligarchs, against their hated Russian oligarchy rivals.

A final question from those suppositions above: what part in this process is Israel involved. Friends again for self-interest, with the US is it?

Dan.

Hate, C.M? No I'm not a hater. I don't agree in the strongest terms with those who would divide us at a time when when we need to be united! United we stand, divided we fall!

And never more so than against the CCP and her Australian agents. It is written by their fruits ye shall know them!

And those who seek to divide us with their BS left and right C.R.A.P. And those that seek to divide us are not our friends or even fair dinkum Aussies.

The left are not the enemy! That role is well served by the CCP and all who seek to divide us, be they numbskull white Supremists or moronic Neo-Nazis. No names no pack drill, but if the cap fits, C.M?
Alan B.

Spin it any which way, Dan, it doesn't give an elected dictator, i.e., Putin any "qualified" excuse to invade a peaceful non aggressive neigbour!

Any sovereign nation has an absolute right to determine who they want to align with and and whether they want to be free! And not to become the slaves of an imperial Russia again!

And to that end the democracies the world over, have a vested interest in supporting that endevour, least they become next on the list of conquests of an Authoritan totalitarian regime!?

Least we forget!
Alan B.

Alan B.

*…Spin it any which way, Dan, it doesn't give an elected dictator, i.e., Putin any "qualified" excuse to invade a peaceful non aggressive neigbour!…*

The old saying goes AB, pick a fight you’ll get one!

It’s important to know why in this instance. I prefer to take an analytical unemotional look into it.
On both sides of this fence grinds a relentless propaganda machine, out of which the truth is always distorted, but hints to it are in there.

Only a fool would take this conflict at face value, sounds to me like you fit that mould judged on your frenetic responses.
I don’t care personally what your conclusions are, but if you want to be objective, look further than the monotone Western propaganda machinery output. That’s lazy!

My view on the Jewish connection, is far away from antisemitism. I take it from your rant above you believe any theory involving Jews is that.
I read into this conflict a motivation on Putin’s part, (at least in some part of it), he is reacting towards them.

Try some constructive input to my theory by reading what I have put forward as a theory based on evidence, without transforming yourself into a raving lunatic.

Dan

diver dan,
Well said !

Putin does not have to provide an "excuse" to anyone for invading Ukraine. He has his reasons, right or wrong. He just did it. A bunch of posters in Australia arguing about it will not make the slightest difference. Our problem is China; not Russia or Ukraine.

*…Our problem is China; not Russia or Ukraine….*

Not at all, Ukraine is highly significant. Everybody is waiting and watching for a Chinese reaction.

If there is any significance to the Solomons it is this: who are our friends. In reality we have very few that can be relied upon.
Hanging onto the coat tails of our old Uncle is bad for our health!

Wherever he goes, there goes trouble. It’s entirely why we have a Ukraine war: Just another one with the drunken old Uncle in the middle of it.
Do we want that for Australia?

Dan.

Bit of a late response, but I decided that since I named my great-grandfather on the ANZAC thread that I wouldn't post anything else regarding war or politics on ANZAC day.

I know I have opinions on these matters that others may not agree with, or find concerning and I didn't want to in any way tarnish my great-grandfathers achievements in war for our country.

Now, regarding Solomon Islands and Ukraine.
Look how many of you are acting with regards to China just because they made an agreement with the Solomon Islands.

Compare that with Putin's situation.
He's got the Ukraine contemplating becoming a NATO member
- Which will certainly include military bases in Ukraine and nukes stationed 600 klms from Moscow.

All of you who are distressed about China / Solomon Islands...
Imagine how incensed you would be if Russia or China took over Flinders Island and stationed nukes and military bases there instead?
I don't any think you can complain about the Solomon Islands / China issue, without also displaying complete ignorance on the Ukraine / Russia issue.
Your complain about a probable Chinese base 2000 klms away from our northern shores.
Russia is complaining about a guaranteed future US presence with nukes 600 klms away from it's capital.

To follow on, I'd like to add this comment in regards to wars.

Smedley Butler on Interventionism
-- Excerpt from a speech delivered in 1933, by Major General Smedley Butler, USMC. --

War is just a racket. A racket is best described, I believe, as something that is not what it seems to the majority of people. Only a small inside group knows what it is about. It is conducted for the benefit of the very few at the expense of the masses.

I believe in adequate defense at the coastline and nothing else. If a nation comes over here to fight, then we'll fight. The trouble with America is that when the dollar only earns 6 percent over here, then it gets restless and goes overseas to get 100 percent. Then the flag follows the dollar and the soldiers follow the flag.

I wouldn't go to war again as I have done to protect some lousy investment of the bankers. There are only two things we should fight for. One is the defense of our homes and the other is the Bill of Rights. War for any other reason is simply a racket.

There isn't a trick in the racketeering bag that the military gang is blind to. It has its "finger men" to point out enemies, its "muscle men" to destroy enemies, its "brain men" to plan war preparations, and a "Big Boss" Super-Nationalistic-Capitalism.

It may seem odd for me, a military man to adopt such a comparison. Truthfulness compels me to. I spent thirty- three years and four months in active military service as a member of this country's most agile military force, the Marine Corps. I served in all commissioned ranks from Second Lieutenant to Major-General. And during that period, I spent most of my time being a high class muscle- man for Big Business, for Wall Street and for the Bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism.

[Cont.]

[Cont.]

I suspected I was just part of a racket at the time. Now I am sure of it. Like all the members of the military profession, I never had a thought of my own until I left the service. My mental faculties remained in suspended animation while I obeyed the orders of higher-ups. This is typical with everyone in the military service.

I helped make Mexico, especially Tampico, safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefits of Wall Street. The record of racketeering is long. I helped purify Nicaragua for the international banking house of Brown Brothers in 1909-1912 (where have I heard that name before?). I brought light to the Dominican Republic for American sugar interests in 1916. In China I helped to see to it that Standard Oil went its way unmolested.

During those years, I had, as the boys in the back room would say, a swell racket. Looking back on it, I feel that I could have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three continents.

Ukraine is not ‘just like us’ (the West).

In the democracy area, Ukraine has a score of only 61/100 from Freedom House: it is partly free, in the same league as countries like Colombia, Serbia, Liberia, El Salvador and the Philippines.

President Zelensky has seized the opportunity of war to suspend 11 opposition parties, the largest of which has 44 seats in the 450 seat parliament. The president as also nationalised several media outlets to “implement a unified information policy”!

In the corruption stakes, Ukraine’s score is 32/100, making it “Europe’s most corrupt country” (‘Transparency International’).

Ukraine is not the ‘sweet potato that know-nothing Western leaders and hysterics think it is. Nor is the country’s president.

The conflict with Russia will not reshape the global order, and it has very little relevance to the Indo-Pacific; China is the problem there

Think some salient points need to be included to explain the background; Anglosphere white nativist libertarian ideology, masquerading as US born white Christian nationalism, and claims of common sense.

Since the time of Howard Australians have been nudged way from Asia and the Pacific, often with quite a bit of dog whistling, towards arrogant Anglosphere.

It became worse under Abbott with DFAT cuts and like others e.g. Downer, Hockey et al. they neglected both Asia and the Pacific to serve the interests of the UK Tories and/or US GOP, especially including Brexit, Trump & Pompeo on China, as 'foreign agents', like Murdoch too.

What's that all about?

Thanks for your feedback Alan B.

But I'm not sure that I would agree that you're not a hater given your comments. It seems that our politics are different.

It appears you've implied I am a Neo-Nazi-White-Supremicist- aside from the ad hominem- I'd say that everyone is biased and bigoted in favour of their own ideology- a culture or system can't survive unless the members of the system act to protect it- and I don't generally advocate killing of anyone if you're implying that I'm a murderer.

I'm not even sure I know what a Neo-Nazi-White-Supremicist is- a Nazi by definition is a National Socialist as I understand- I remember apparent Green Watermelon Paul1405 saying that he had read Hitler's Mein Kampf- I don't consider myself a Socialist or a Communist- but I haven't felt the need to read so called Nazi literature. My sense of Nazism- reactionary politics due to spread of Communism after Oct 1919 Revolution, Romanov 1800's decline, historical activities- Paris Commune 1860's, French Revolution 1790's, John Locke and the English Civil War 1660's. I'm afraid I don't know much more about The Nazi's than what is available through popular media- mostly through Hollywood. I understand that Britain's ethnicity and language is similar to the Germanic Nordic people.

I have however viewed Dostoevsky, Solzenitzen, Bezmenov, Burnham and their views on Global Communist Nihilism which seem to be a feature of the left.

The Father of the New Left is considered to be Frankfurt School Hebrew Trotskyite Herbert Marcuse- 1900's- books including The One Dimensional Man, Eros and Civilization.

There are other interesting socially left writers including Saul Alinsky- Hebrew writer of Rules for Radicals. Alinsky seems to be promoting genocide of white people from memory- presumably in the US. He was apparently a member of the eugenics movement.

If you have any coherent information that adds to my knowledge I'll be interested in hearing it.

Thanks again for your feedback Alan B- but I still hold (despite your "argument") that "the Left appear to be agents for the CCP"- despite any tantrums to the contrary.

It seems that Andras Smith is doing a bit of dog whistling himself- perhaps in favour of Trotskyist Nihilistic Globalism under the guise of Humanitarianism.

It's interesting that both Socialist's and Libertarian's both favour global industrial systems. The study of Marx's 3 Volumes of Das Capital seems to me to be an exercise in self torture. The difference is that Socialist's apparently believe in "Academic Tyrants".

The human mind has a capacity for emotion, that seems to be its problem!
These emotions are then harnessed to an ideology.
Same emotions, different ideologies.

There is a mysterious process at work.
Conditioning is a process requiring emotion: (Pavlov and his dogs).
Conditioning is a process which manipulates emotions.

The mysterious motivator. The endless list!
Truth: One mans truth is another mans lie! Same emotions.
The unfixable problem; domination.
The fix is war.

There is no stopping it!

Dan

ttbn
What is the rules based order?
Answer = The world run BY and FOR the interests of the United States.

Why do Russia and China say they are on the right side of history?
Because they do not support this US vision of the world anymore.
- Which means THEY ARE on the right side of history.

Russia is achieving its military objectives in Ukraine.

The US and the West, by blocking access to Russians own money has shown itself to be untrustworthy.
- And just as they're willing to fight down the the last Ukrainian to get at Russia,
- They've also just shown that they too will be willing to fight to the last Taiwanese to get at China.

China will most likely take Taiwan back in the coming years,
And there's nothing the US or anyone else can do about it.

CM: Not even worth responding to when you simply 'shoot messengers'

AC: 'Russia is achieving its military objectives in Ukraine', really, what evidence is there for this?

They are allegedly nearing a dozen lost Generals, better resources inc. tanks/aircraft, one of three capital ships and former allies; China looking to keep its distance.....

Meanwhile the state of the military shows top down control (no NCOs etc.), corruption in procurement/supply (familiar locally...?), low morale and soon will have to start using conscripts from Moscow and St. Petersburg regions; hope no domestic uprisings or internal strife kicks off....

Armchair Critic said- "What is the rules based order? Answer = The world run BY and FOR the interests of the United States."

Answer- Personally I don't think humanity is mature enough to play nicely in a rules based order- perhaps we will never be- so we're left with dominance with limited freedom within a sandbox.

Like pack dogs and the top dog- but the English top dog is the holy trinity Westminster System.

The rules based order is more something that helps groups trade and negotiate with limited conflict. People such as Saul Alinsky see the order as being something that is to be used as a weapon against the ones managing the order to make it unworkable.

As others have said- there is no perfect system- we are all stumbling in the darkness- some more than others.

One measure that has been reliable to determine the stability of different systems is how long they are able to last.

Andras Smith said- "CM: Not even worth responding to when you simply 'shoot messengers'"

Answer- Yes- I perceived your shooting of my message- using what I perceived as blinkered leftist propaganda tactics- is the reason I responded in the form I did.

Maybe if you were less oblique or more clear I would be less likely to "misinterpret" your message.

Good point Andras Smith on the concept of "messenger shooters"- but there is a difference between messengers and propagandists.

Andras Smith said- "Since the time of Howard Australians have been nudged way from Asia and the Pacific, often with quite a bit of dog whistling, towards arrogant Anglosphere. It became worse under Abbott with DFAT cuts and like others e.g. Downer, Hockey et al. they neglected both Asia and the Pacific to serve the interests of the UK Tories and/or US GOP, especially including Brexit, Trump & Pompeo on China, as 'foreign agents', like Murdoch too."

Answer- Are you saying that the reason South East Asia/ Northern Australasia is rejecting Australia is because Australia have insulted and ignored them? If that is your argument I would counter by saying that South East Asia/ Northern Australasia need to show some commitment to improvement and personal responsibility for their own problems- so they can be a valued member of an Australasian Commonwealth rather than wasting Australian time and money- and then asking for more.

Anyway thanks Andras Smith for your feedback.

AC: 'Russia is achieving its military objectives in Ukraine', really, what evidence is there for this?

Because that's what a USMC Military Intelligence Officer / UN Weapons Inspector who helped plan Desert Storm in Iraq laid out in full detail.

And it correlates and clarifies many things I already knew.
You wont get this information on our news networks though.
All you'll get from them is lies and narrative.

Scott Ritter: A Conversation About Ukraine Part 1.
http://youtu.be/-fNrnWxXhP0

Scott Ritter: A Conversation About Ukraine Part 2.
http://youtu.be/jQSTHvD2z1c

Putin's already taken territory close to the size of England.

- But we're only just getting started.
The West is going all in, things are about to heat up really soon I think.
I hope you're all ready for a larger war, because things are going to spiral out of control.
There's no hiding the fact that EU states, NATO, the US and other western countries including ours are already in a proxy war with Russia.
It's inevitable, I don't think there's any stopping it now.
- and we're all might find out that Russia's wasn't bluffing.

You do realise they have enough nukes to destroy the planet several times over?

CM: Still, what are you offering, i.e. credible analysis, that can be interrogated?

AC: Scott Ritter does not have credibility, even if he did, you'd need several others to support whatever he promotes, which is unclear but simply anecdotal or opinion.

My issue is the Anglocentric views of people in nations far away from the conflict, without any suffering any impact personally of Putin's actions, vs. reverberations on others e.g. EU & other border nations.

Well, Well, Well

Quote myself "You know how I read that?
I read that as this - The US is now preparing to overthrow the country.
FYI, US Embassies are US Overthrow Headquarters."

Sogavare "In other words, we are threatened with invasion"
http://youtu.be/Rpmowynmt6M

So how long ago was that, 12 days ago I wrote that?
[Rolls eyes] So who's stupid, me or you lot?