Why "mostly", David? The whole world is my fiction, this book included.

Well, it dos not matter whether I am right or Yuyutsu is right
the effect is the same.
If the rest of the world can accept thatis what they believe
then the only solution can be to build a real or virtual wall
around the middle east with a segment with sea access for Israel
and ALL moslems kept inside the wall.

Then we will have peace or else.

A few comments about 'ownership'.
Nobody owns anything, unless they can defend their need to possess it.
The state is stronger, and better able to defend the need of a citizen to possess something, than the citizen himself is.

In the case of land, we OCCUPY it.
If we want to make use of it for a lengthy time, we must also be prepared to DEFEND it.
So ownership of a area is really 'occupy and defend'.
If a stronger force does arrive, and is able to drive us out, we no longer have occupancy.
So we would lose what we term 'ownership' of the land. (and everything in it)

Similarly with goods.
That which we call ownership is again a right to have access to an item for our own use.
This is guaranteed by the state.
It guarantees that if we purchase something, we will have exclusive title to it.
This can only continue if the 'state' remains strong, and defends our right to 'have and use' that item.

So ownership is arbitary, and lasts only as long as our ability to defend the use of that which we have in our possession.
To have ownership of something for a thousand years, someone must be able to defend it for that amount of time.
He must be able to prevent others taking over.
However, a group could 'own' land without defending it if there were no other people nearby.
Nobody would be trying to take it from them.
That is what happened in australia, because the land was so isolated?
That is what happens on our planet, because there are no aliens nearby who can come and take control?

The Eureka Stockader's put it differently paraphrasing "we built it we own it" rather than Ipso Fatso's "we defend/ invade it we own it".

The "we defend/ invade it we own it" philosophy seems to be a recipe for an arms/ population race.

Ancient soldiers leaving for battle instructed to create more soldier-sons.

But philosophy is- fluid.

The joys of "idealism" rather than materialism or dualism- Yuyutsu should go and stand in traffic to determine if the world is in his imagination.

Ironically "cellular automata" have been said to mimic the mathematical abstraction of reality and the universe- so in a sense maybe he's correct- there are some that have asked the question "what is reality- and how is it constructed from primitive axioms"- "what are spacial dimensions- what is time- does space exist without matter"- John Wheeler discussed some of these- paraphrasing "space tells matter how to move- matter tells space how to bend".

At some point the universe and reality seems to evaporate into abstraction- but still consciousness exists- "Cogito Ergo Sum!"

Alan B- "demanded a 10% tithe"

Answer- There are ratbags all around- but I think Hasbeen was referring to people that blew up train stations whatever their reasons. But a little ratbaggery is sometimes necessary to thrash out things.

The 10% tithe seems pretty good compared to our taxation system- maybe I'm missing something.

Thanks for your comments and our history Alan B.