#Yuyutsu

Didn't know you could read and understand Hebrew.
Where did you pick that up?
Who was the author of this really groundbreaking work?

Could you give me the specific page references to back up your following allegations:
1."research shows that their ethnic origin [most of today's so called "Palestinians"] is Israeli, more specifically Judean, that their ancestors were Jewish farmers who never left their land, never exiled, that while the higher classes who lived in cities left Israel, the farmers stayed on their land."

2."The research shows that the conquering [Arab] army could not have comprised of more than 46,000 soldiers, and these too were then moved to other fronts, so Jews were still the majority by far. Further, they were all men, so even if they fathered children, the mothers were still Jewish, so their descendants are also Jewish according to Jewish law."

3.Research into the nuances of language and names of these so-called "Palestinians" proves that regardless of converting to Islam (especially to avoid taxes), they retained much of their Israeli/Judean culture. Later on they also adopted different national identities, but that cannot change the fact that most of them are ethnically Jewish."

Using Google translate from Hebrew to English will probably get a worthwhile result.

If your quoted research relates to any of the information contained in the 24 footnotes - please also similarly translate.

Dear David,

Google translate isn't going to be of much help since I have the book in physical form, thus you might have to do with my own translation. The Copyright allows me this, but sadly not to scan the pages for you.

1. The evidence is spread all over those sections. Let me quote just the 3rd paragraph of page 180:
"The Jewish origin of the farmers can be exposed through philological research of the local Arab language as well as by forensic geography. Like Belkind and in more details, the authors stress that according to a research based on the 10,000 names of all villages, streams, fountains, mountains, ruins, valleys and hills from "Dan" to "Beer-Sheva", the fact is settled that all the Biblical terms for the land of Israel are still alive, as it was, in the speech of the rural population [here comes a reference to the book: http://simania.co.il/bookdetails.php?item_id=948083 (by Ben Gurion and Yitzhak Ben Zvi, to later become Israel's first prime-minister and second president)]

"About 210 settlements have clear Hebrew names. Along the Muslim law existed for a long times "the laws of farmers or the unwritten customary laws which were called [in Arabic] 'Shariaat el chalil' - the laws of Abraham our forefather." [again a reference to the above book by Ben-Gurion]

"Next to the Muslim houses of prayers (jama'a) were many local temples in the villages (veli-o-makam) in memorial of the 3 forefathers, kings and prophets aside famous Sheikhs."

2. Page 174, 3rd paragraph:
"The Muslim army which rose from the Arab deserts like a swirling typhoon and which conquered the region between the years 638 and 643 A.D. was relatively small in size. By maximal estimate it had no more than 46,000 fighters and the vast majority of that force was transferred further on to fighting in other fronts on the borders of the Byzantine Caesarship." [here comes a reference to this book: http://www.booksefer.co.il/index.php?page=catalog&op=item&cs=31207)

"Of course, the positioning of some thousands of permanent soldiers brought about the bringing in of their families, and likely lands were confiscated for the conquerors,

[continued...]

[...continued]

but this process could not have in any case bring about a decisive change of demography; it could perhaps caused a small portion of the conquered to turn into vassals. Further, while the Arab occupation caused a decisive disconnect from the bustling trade which took place till then around the Mediterranean shores, thus the slow decline in population throughout the region, there is no information showing that this decline in population brought about the swapping of "nation"."

(page 175 continues to discuss the Jews' preference for the Muslims, their bad relationship with Christianity thus their support of the victorious Arab army)

The addition about the Arab army being all males, thus the population remaining Jewish even if women were raped, was my own logical conclusion. Has anyone ever heard of Arab women fighting wars (and raping the conquered men)?

3. Regarding the language and names, see above.
Regarding the conclusion, 1st paragraph of page 181:
"In the year 1929 [following the Hebron massacre] it could be seen that Ben-Zvi's [Israel's second president] voice was more moderate: "Clearly one cannot claim that all the [Arab]farmers are descendants of the ancient Jews, but only their majority in essence"" [here comes a reference to his book: http://www.nli.org.il/he/books/NNL_ALEPH990013511420205171/NLI ]

"According to him, various immigrants arrived from many places and the local population became quite mixed. However, what remained in the language, names of places, legal customs vast celebrations such as "Nabi Mussa" and other cultural practices, leave almost no doubt that "the vast majority of [Arab]farmers did not come from the Arab conquerors, but earlier, from the Jewish farmers who were by far the constituents of the land before the Islamic occupation"". [here's another reference to the same plus an article from the article-collection http://simania.co.il/bookdetails.php?item_id=74001 by the institute of Zalman-Shazar, Israel's 3rd president]

As you see, this is not "groundbreaking work", but the writings of Israel's original Zionist leaders. The book details how due to the geopolitical changes, especially since WWII, these writings were hidden as they became politically inconvenient. Yet even Israel's embarrassed leadership failed to make their earlier writings completely disappear.

#Yuyutsu

Your fantastic translation from Hebrew to English would leave Google for dead. Some very complicated words and phrases (philological research, forensic geography, swirling typhoon, unwritten customary laws) used that few would have the skill and ability you have shown to translate. Where did you acquire such expertise?

You actually have a copy of the book "in physical form"? Wow - why would you be so interested in acquiring a book published in Hebrew?

I did ask you who the author was. Can you give me his name?

That said you have outed yourself and blotted your copybook with this statement:
"The addition about the Arab army being all males, thus the population remaining Jewish even if women were raped, was my own logical conclusion. Has anyone ever heard of Arab women fighting wars (and raping the conquered men)?"

You represented this as your research when it was your opinion. Not intellectually honest.

Can the same be equally said of the other two allegations you made supposedly based on your research? I am not prepared to spend endless hours trying to find out. One such exposure taints all. At least you had the decency to come clean.

Dear David,

The relevant paragraph in my original post in answering your question ("are you really serious..."), was:

"The research shows that the conquering army could not have comprised of more than 46,000 soldiers, and these too were then moved to other fronts, so Jews were still the majority by far. Further, they were all men, so even if they fathered children, the mothers were still Jewish, so their descendants are also Jewish according to Jewish law."

As you see, there are two separate sentences there - the first being "The research shows that...", then after the sentence's period I added, "Further, they were all men...". Sorry if my style of writing confused you to misunderstand that "The research shows" also pertained to the second sentence.

Since your question did not and could not mention any research (because I have not mentioned any "research" prior to that point), there was no reason why I could be expected to limit my response only to research-results.

I will not answer personal questions. I got the book in one of my family-visits in Israel, it was many years ago so I can't remember why, perhaps because it was recommended to me, more likely it was given to me as gift. As for your other question, «I did ask you who the author was. Can you give me his name?», then sure, his name is Shlomoh Zand.

#Yuyutsu

So finally you reveal the author is Shlomo Zand - another Jew-hater.

Were you really quoting from his book in Hebrew? What a fraud you are. I bet your "translation" was cut and pasted from the English edition which came out in 2009.

The translator Yael Lotan won't be too happy with your misrepresenting her translation as yours.

The title of the book is a dead giveaway as to Zand's thinking- "The invention of the Jewish People"

Here is part of a review of his book:

"For 2,000 years, philosophers and historians have tried to understand the Jewish problem, others have tried to solve it by eliminating the Jews. No Jews, no problem! Sometimes it requires a non-expert to find a solution. Shlomo Zand, an Israeli professor of French history and cinema, is the latest contender to offer a final solution to the Jewish problem. His solution has French elegance: Prove that there are no Jews, get everyone to believe it, and then there will be no more Jewish problem. His book, "Matai ve'eych humtza ha'am hayehudi?" ("When and How was the Jewish People Invented?") was just published in Israel and is a best seller. By September, it will be published in French. By that time, Zand should be well on his way to solving the Jewish problem.

Zand is to be commended for a solution that at first glance, seems to have no mess, no fuss and no bother, a great improvement over previous models. No auto da fe is required, no charging Cossacks are needed, no gas chambers, no smelly crematoria. It is not even necessary to be baptized. Nothing! A coterie of non-Jewish Jewish sycophants have already written laudatory reviews of the book and interviews with the budding genius, in which he explains the workings of his ingenious invention for annihilation of the Jews."

My future response to you posting any further comments to my articles will be: "Outed Jew-hater and intellectual fraud. No response will be given to this comment"