Alan B, how do you get around the belief that the land occupied by
Israel does not belong to the Jews but to Moslems ?
Abbas's and Hamas's policy is to expell all Jews.
That is what "From the River to the Sea" means.

Dear Bazz,

«how do you get around the belief that the land occupied by
Israel does not belong to the Jews but to Moslems ?»

But why should you care whom does this cursed land belongs to?

Just let Israel get out of there, for its own sake, then let whatever happens in there happen, let the interested parties, whoever they may be, sort it out amongst themselves.

«Abbas's and Hamas's policy is to expell all Jews.
That is what "From the River to the Sea" means.»

So? Do you want to deny them their dreams even?

Compared with Israel, they are like mosquitos: they can annoy, bite and cause some itching, but not much more.

Yuyutsu
Well how would you like it if someone came along said get out of your
house and leave the country, or we will kill you !
I think the Jews have been kicked around so many times that they have had enough.
After Hitler they said No More! Israel is our country and we are taking it back.
Hence the troubles in the area from the end of the war.

It is as simple as that !

Why do I care ? Well, no real skin of my nose but give in to the
Islamists and they will come for you next.
Anyway where would the Jews go ?

Dear Bazz,

«Well how would you like it if someone came along said get out of your house and leave the country, or we will kill you !»

Some midget the size of an ant?

I might give it a laugh, but if they start annoying too much beyond just talking and place burrs in my shoes, then I could pick them up and throw them over the fence in my neighbour's backyard...

«I think the Jews have been kicked around so many times that they have had enough.
After Hitler they said No More! Israel is our country and we are taking it back.»

It is dangerous to generalise like that. Jews are anything but a monolithic body, in fact there is much controversy over what exactly "Jew" means.

Anyway, Israel is not "their country" - Israel belongs to the Israelis. Jews are LIKELY to be accepted there, but shouldn't they at least say "thank you"?
SOME Jews did make Israel their home, other Jews found different solutions, including living in Australia, yet others are too busy to even think about it.

«Hence the troubles in the area from the end of the war.»

Can you show me anywhere in the world where humans live that was ever trouble-free?

«Well, no real skin of my nose but give in to the Islamists and they will come for you next.»

I am much more worried about the Chinese.
Actually, some Islamists could be our allies in facing that common enemy which is much more dangerous.

«Anyway where would the Jews go ?»

Unlike North Koreans, they are free to go nearly anywhere they like, with myriad of options available.

Those who feel connected to Israel could migrate to Israel and become Israelis, others who are impelled by certain Messianic beliefs could choose to migrate to "Judea+Samaria" once Israel vacates the place (they could possibly be required to war with the natives, but I leave such decisions completely up to them), others could stop being Jewish, others could come to Australia or join a scientific mission to Antarctica, etc., etc.

I had always thought you contributions here were well thought out and
reasonable, but I now think you are rather muddled.

>Some midget the size of an ant? Multiple Islamic countries ?

To try and separate them from those now in Israel and Jews outside
the country is ignoring their long time religious connection only
broken by the Islamists, Romans etc etc.
They are not interested in going elsewhere, they have had enough of that.
You are really muddled with your comments they could migrate to
Somaria and Judea ??
Reading all this again, I realise you are just pulling my leg.
Having wasted my time, I will not bother to reply to you again.
If you really are handicapped, I apologise.