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From vaccine passports to vaccine apartheid : Comments
By Graham Young, published 3/9/2021Vaccine apartheid, whether proposed by governments or various commercial and not-for profits serves no good point. And if there is no point, then it is an infringement on basic human rights.
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Posted by Alan B., Sunday, 5 September 2021 12:26:52 PM
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"The thing that really burns me is, if we had island quarantine from the get-go? This terrible killer virus could have been completely kept out and the total economy allowed to work as almost always!"
No Alan B, - That's just not the way you do things. You don't want individual portable cabins out in the fresh open air on an offshore island just off the coast, no. What are you thinking Alan B? That would be stupid. The best way to have a quarantine, is to start by locating them right in the centre of our capital cities, this is important, given people are coming from overseas. And you don't want them out in the open air, no. That wouldn't help at all. What we need to do is put them all in the same one building, with circulated ventilation connecting all the rooms, that's the best way. Grammarly, remember this - everything designed to help you was actually designed to screw you over. In this scenario Alan B, they're teaching you how to write in a more correct manner, so that the computers and AI can analyse what you're saying better. They're not trying to teach you how to read and write better. They are sharpening their tools to spy upon you. mhaze, "AC, who need I remind him, has already said he won't take the vaccine, complains that "You people oppose the vaccines"!! !!" Really, that's all you've got for a retort? That's all you could come up with? I'll make light work of this, mate; I don't give a crap if you take the stupid vaccine or not, ok, it's your choice. I do care if you want the freedom to spread the shite around so I'm forced to have it, you imbecile. Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 5 September 2021 1:13:19 PM
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The Federation is crumbling into bickering states whose borders are closed to each other. Foreigners and dual citizens/permanent residents and jetsetters can fly into Australia, but Australians can’t travel around their own country.
National unity is a thing of the past. The PM, while publicly pretending to oppose border closures, praises the WA premier for keeping people "safe" - probably pissing in voters' pockets hoping that they won't wipe out Liberals at the federal election as they did in the recent state rout. He is also putting high hopes on the vaccination requirements for easing restrictions put about by the Doherty Institute, which got its last wild predictions so horribly wrong. The Institute's diktat has not been accepted by all state Tsars, who want to keep their subjects scared and miserable. Australia has moved from just rooted to totally rooted, as have we all - thanks to our unrealistic expectations of governments, and reluctance to stand up and be counted. Posted by ttbn, Sunday, 5 September 2021 1:59:03 PM
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Not satisfied with it's gross abuse of power in connection with Covid, the Victorian government is seeking to perpetrate "the most vicious attack on freedom of speech" in Australia's in peacetime history,” according to the Institute of Public Affairs.
The Andrews government is proposing to give vast powers to the human rights bureaucracy "to regulate and censor the opinions of mainstream Australians.” Practically any expression of an opinion that someone disagreed with could be declared unlawful, even if nobody was actually harmed by the opinion expressed. The IPA believes that the Andrews government plans to empower left-wing activist groups to enforce the law. Given Andrews' track record that might not be as far fetched as some might think. Posted by ttbn, Sunday, 5 September 2021 3:12:24 PM
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Hey ttbn,
They're going after free speech in the US too. Lefties here, Lefties there - par for the course. Free Speech Is Killing Us http://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/04/opinion/sunday/free-speech-social-media-violence.html The Case Against Free Speech http://www.boldtypebooks.com/titles/pe-moskowitz/the-case-against-free-speech/9781568588667/ Dangerous Speech Project http://dangerousspeech.org/ http://www.npr.org/podcasts/452538775/on-the-media Constitutionally Speaking - August 27, 2021 Leiter, Brian - "The Case against Free Speech" [2016] http://classic.austlii.edu.au/au/journals/SydLawRw/2016/19.html#fn1 I agree, this country's stuffed. It's supposed to be one person one vote. Whats this 2 party preferential system? 2 parties preferring that I don't ever vote for anyone but them? - Or they fine me? As for delta, being vaccinated wont remove a need for being tested. http://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/07/28/world/covid-delta-variant-vaccine It probably won't even remove a need for masks http://www.nydailynews.com/coronavirus/ny-nyc-de-blasio-covid-vaccinated-should-wear-masks-to-slow-delta-variant-20210802-lbibwgye2nfpzoqxhswplvcziu-story.html I heard a nurse state the PCR tests contain carcinogens. They will just change the rules again and again. It's just another admission that vaccinated people can catch and pass on delta. This article should be enough to tell you that the vaccines aren't going to work like they're saying. Israel is one of the most highly vaccinated countries in the world. Now they have 11000 cases per day. http://theconversation.com/covid-cases-are-rising-in-highly-vaccinated-israel-but-it-doesnt-mean-australia-should-give-up-and-live-with-the-virus-166404 http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/israel-covid-delta-variant-booster-1.6159472 The vaccines won't work like they want. And a government this incompetent (ours) and lacking forward thing on anything, is not going to save us. They're clueless, and hoping for the best. It's not going to work. Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 5 September 2021 8:07:26 PM
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AC
Your first reference is paywalled, the second one was a book I wouldn't read. I think it's best if we don’t go looking for more nutters than we already know exist in our day to day lives - our own politicians, our own media, some of the OLO posters. If it was the Chinese Communist Party's idea to unsettle their enemies, it's working, with the help of our own politicians, the media, constantly harping about new cases every bloody day, all bloody day. People are committing suicide because of the lockdowns and scaremongering. People are going broke. Nobody seems to have any hope. Misery abounds. Rabbits in the spotlight. Frogs in slow bowling water. Nothing positive at all. Posted by ttbn, Sunday, 5 September 2021 9:28:57 PM
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Alan B.