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Barty’s embrace : Comments

By Andris Heks, published 12/7/2021

Yes, giving up is no longer an option for Barty. Having rolled over brilliant Gerber in the semi-final, she was not going to be a wilting flower.

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Individual: Will you heed Noel Pearson: 'WHEREAS THREE STORIES MAKE AUSTRALIA:

the Ancient Indigenous Heritage which is its foundation, the British Institutions built upon it, and the adorning Gift of Multicultural Migration:

And whereas Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander tribes were the First Nations of the Australian continent and its islands, possessed under ancient laws and customs, according to the reckoning of culture, from the Creation, according to the common law, from time immemorial, and according to science for more than 65 millennia. This is a spiritual notion: the ancestral tie between the land, or mother nature, and the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples who were born therefrom, remain attached thereto, and must one day return thither to be united with their ancestors. We recognise and honour the First Nations who discovered Australia as their sovereign possession, the oldest continuing civilisation in the world.

And whereas those who sailed the First Fleet landing at Sydney Cove carried upon their shoulders the common law of England, when the sovereignty of the British Crown was proclaimed. The rule of law, parliamentary government and the Australian English language have their provenance in Britain. From eyes on board ship, this was a settlement, and from eyes on shore, an invasion. We recognise the eve of the 25th and the dawn of the 26th January 1788 as a profound time for all of us, when Ancient Australia became the New Australia. We recognise and honour the Britons and Irish – convict and free – who founded our institutional heritage, making our Commonwealth from 1901, a great democracy of the globe.

And whereas peoples the earth over brought their multitude of cultural gifts to Australia. That we celebrate diversity in unity makes us a beacon unto the world.' (Second part to follow)
Posted by Andris, Saturday, 17 July 2021 1:02:22 PM
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Andris,
from what I have gathered from the indigenous I conversed with, heeding Noel Pearson is not something they recommend !
Posted by individual, Saturday, 17 July 2021 1:55:58 PM
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Dear Andris,

This is for you:

" It isn't always easy to try to fit in
When even your name is considered a sin
When you're not a Smith or even a Jones
And saying your name makes some people groan

It's even worse if you're Chinese
You do get blamed for each disease
Heaven help you and that's a fact
If you happen to be Black

And if you have a different God
You're considered quite weird and rather odd
Or if your love doesn't fit the norm
You may regret you were ever born

Then of course there's our native people
Who some describe as being feeble
Who's to blame for this dilemma?
The White Man's Law and his systema.

Frankly though it's not too late
We can make changes and navigate
Righting the past in our Constitution
Would correct the history of total exclusion

Future generations will then grow up with pride
Able to take things in their stride
That's the way surrounded by sea
This big brown land is meant to be!"
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 17 July 2021 1:58:05 PM
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Andris: Let's dig into your claim that aboriginals were knowledgeable of a solid 60,000+* years of their history via an oral tradition. To do this let's play a game. The rules of the game are really simple:

A)we'll take turns and name a past decade,
B)and from this decade we'll both list 6 historical facts that's truth is well established-
I'll concentrate on European History and you do Traditional Aboriginal History. I'll even allow you to consult any expert in aboriginal history or use any resource as along as it is traditional aboriginal history (not historical facts recorded by other cultures about aborigines). I'll start, here we go:

I nominate: 1700-1710 as the decade of interest

My facts are:
1) The Great Northern War between the Swedish Empire and Russia (plus other actors) was started in 1700 and raged for a couple of decades
2) Queen Anne became the ruler of a single state called Great Britain due to the unification of England and Scotland under the Acts of Union in 1707
3) Famine kills about 1/3 of East Prussia's population in 1708-1709
4) The Great Frost/The Great Winter of 1709: the coldest European winter for the last 500 years
5) Bach composed Toccata and Fugue in D minor, BWV 565 in 1704
6) The artist François Boucher was born in 1703

Ok, your turn. You simple have to supply 6 Historical Aboriginal facts for the decade 1700-1710 and then nominate another decade with another 6 facts.

I'm waiting,...
Posted by thinkabit, Saturday, 17 July 2021 3:43:08 PM
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cont'd ...

Dear Andris,

I left out a few verses.

They come after -

"You may regret you were ever born"

"We've all heard of females and the glass ceiling
Breaking the glass will leave many reeling
There's also the disabled and the aged
The homeless, the drug addicts, and disengaged

Where are the leaders who simply dare
Show us and the country that they do care
To put policies in place
For the good of us all that we can embrace"

"Then of course there's our native people..."

And so on.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 17 July 2021 3:44:42 PM
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thinkabit,

You don't have to wait you can Google the information
for yourself. Put in Aboriginal History and the dates
you're after - Creative Spirits has quite a lot of
information as well as references that you can follow
up. Give it a try. Surprising what you can learn and
rewarding too when you do it for yourself.

Give it a go! Otherwise we can take it that you're only
stirring and believe that there was no Aboriginal history
until the white man came.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 17 July 2021 4:04:14 PM
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