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Recent attacks on the Christian foundations of Australia : Comments

By Augusto Zimmermann, published 17/6/2021

One of the most peculiar characteristics of contemporary Australia is that opponents of religious expression often assume that Christian beliefs are irremediably divisive, bigoted, and irrational.

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"It is simply the re-application of the Ancient Roman strategy of "divide-and-conquer" to destabilise rival civilisations by turning people against one another and, ultimately, turning everyone towards an "all-encompassing, all-inclusive" government."

Yes. Yes. Yes. And the drones vote for it every three years, and spend the next three years with their heads up their backsides.

"Rights" are only what governments grant you; and in Australia, rights are granted only to certain minorities. The majority misses out more and more these days: pretty stupid really when democracy is supposed to be about majority rule.

It's not just Christians missing out. And, most of us are not Christians anyway. It's everyone who is white, usually of Anglo background, with traditional beliefs, socially conservative, and with no kinky habits or peculiarities.

While the same political parties, who keep getting less than 50% of the primary vote, have to rely on weiro minority parties to get anything through the Senate - which is as undemocratic as the House of Lords - nothing will change.
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 17 June 2021 9:41:07 AM
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>"Bit by bit, they have taken control of every facet of the party there are almost no
>conservatives left in the parliamentary Liberal Party in SA," Bond added.

Conservatives and Christians are not the same! Indeed most of the Christians who identify as conservative have missed the point of Christianity!

And it's sensible of the SA Liberals to reject branch stacking no matter who's trying to do it.
Posted by Aidan, Thursday, 17 June 2021 10:46:48 AM
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No religious belief entitles believers to ram their never ever proven beliefs down the throats of those who don't share them!

The practice of religion is a private matter between the devotee and God! And never ever included a right to persecute others for their, God created difference! Nor espouse beliefs that contradict reality!

Paul was a self-confessed homosexual And an unmarried Jesus prefered the company of men almost exclusively! And were he to walk amongst us today? The fundamental fanatics (very much the minority among Christians) that claim to represent the views and beliefs of most Christians would likely label him a homosexual?

No foundational views are verboten! Just that those that are at odds with reality! Cannot be proclaimed as God-given truth!

Alleged traditional Christians burnt seers at the stake, butchered millions of disbelievers and in so many instances raped and buggered minors!

Foundational beliefs are what some patently misguided control freaks/fundamental fanatics say they are! Not necessary as literally taught by Jesus!

Simply claiming that this or that doctrine was divinely inspired? Just doesn't make it so! Nor includes a right to proclaim them as God's truth! But particularly when they're at odds with proven fact/science!

This author is unable to let go of what seems at first glance, brainwashed indoctrination?

Keeps on trying to indoctrinate the gullible with his brand of religious BS? And are the only ones in attack mode!

Just doesn't get that he and his cohort do not have that right!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Thursday, 17 June 2021 12:56:07 PM
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Look, I am not a Christian and I do not care either way for the so-called Christian views in regard to contemporary social issues.

But if indeed Christian views and freedoms are under illegitimate attack - then who would be next in line? It could be any of us!

So some of the author's complaints are indeed a cause for worry, including for the non-Christians among us, while other complaints have no substance.

The complaints without substance are about the inability of Christians (or anyone else for that matter) to join/remain in certain voluntary groups, including political parties and independent employers. After all, one can always form new political parties and either become self-employed or accept employment with someone who does accept them and their views.

The complaint about the inability to foster care is more complex, because in question here are the wishes of the real parents (and of course, of the child him/herself), which the article does not tell.

More serious is the claim of not being allowed to publish one's views over one's private website (assuming it is indeed private).

Most worrying of all is the complaint about not being allowed to teach children and pass over one's values to them even in a private school setting (assuming it is indeed private and does not accept public funds).

I think that the author ought to provide more specific information about the circumstances of their serious complaints.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Thursday, 17 June 2021 2:59:36 PM
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Never mind that the myth of the cultural superiority and the half-baked ideas of "official" institutional christian-ism has now inevitably come full circle. The "religious" mythologies of the world dominant "great" Middle Eastern "religion"s are not only now waging global wars with one another, but the public masses of "religion"-bound people - who, all over the world, for even thousands of years, have been controlled in body and mind by ancient institutions of "religiously"-propagandized worldly power - are now in a globalized state of grossly and world bound "religious" delusion and social psychosis.

Right-wing Christians are of course the leading edge vectors of this collective social psychois - as are right wing Jews and Islamic fundamentalists.
For classic examples of this "religious" psychosis check out any/all of the essays posted on the Quadrant website, especially by the benighted Peter Smith. Quadrant is of course the ideological home base of the featured essay.
Posted by Daffy Duck, Thursday, 17 June 2021 6:34:20 PM
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Some in-your-face evidence re the social psychosis that is now being dramatized by right-wing Christians, especially in the case of those who scribble for Quadrant, is their more than enthusiastic support for the Trumpen-fuhrer, or how they collectively suffer from a hell-deep trump-derangement-syndrome (Peter Smith is a prime example of this syndrome)
Posted by Daffy Duck, Thursday, 17 June 2021 6:58:49 PM
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