"It is simply the re-application of the Ancient Roman strategy of "divide-and-conquer" to destabilise rival civilisations by turning people against one another and, ultimately, turning everyone towards an "all-encompassing, all-inclusive" government."

Yes. Yes. Yes. And the drones vote for it every three years, and spend the next three years with their heads up their backsides.

"Rights" are only what governments grant you; and in Australia, rights are granted only to certain minorities. The majority misses out more and more these days: pretty stupid really when democracy is supposed to be about majority rule.

It's not just Christians missing out. And, most of us are not Christians anyway. It's everyone who is white, usually of Anglo background, with traditional beliefs, socially conservative, and with no kinky habits or peculiarities.

While the same political parties, who keep getting less than 50% of the primary vote, have to rely on weiro minority parties to get anything through the Senate - which is as undemocratic as the House of Lords - nothing will change.

>"Bit by bit, they have taken control of every facet of the party … there are almost no
>conservatives left in the parliamentary Liberal Party in SA," Bond added.

Conservatives and Christians are not the same! Indeed most of the Christians who identify as conservative have missed the point of Christianity!

And it's sensible of the SA Liberals to reject branch stacking no matter who's trying to do it.

No religious belief entitles believers to ram their never ever proven beliefs down the throats of those who don't share them!

The practice of religion is a private matter between the devotee and God! And never ever included a right to persecute others for their, God created difference! Nor espouse beliefs that contradict reality!

Paul was a self-confessed homosexual And an unmarried Jesus prefered the company of men almost exclusively! And were he to walk amongst us today? The fundamental fanatics (very much the minority among Christians) that claim to represent the views and beliefs of most Christians would likely label him a homosexual?

No foundational views are verboten! Just that those that are at odds with reality! Cannot be proclaimed as God-given truth!

Alleged traditional Christians burnt seers at the stake, butchered millions of disbelievers and in so many instances raped and buggered minors!

Foundational beliefs are what some patently misguided control freaks/fundamental fanatics say they are! Not necessary as literally taught by Jesus!

Simply claiming that this or that doctrine was divinely inspired? Just doesn't make it so! Nor includes a right to proclaim them as God's truth! But particularly when they're at odds with proven fact/science!

This author is unable to let go of what seems at first glance, brainwashed indoctrination?

Keeps on trying to indoctrinate the gullible with his brand of religious BS? And are the only ones in attack mode!

Just doesn't get that he and his cohort do not have that right!
Alan B.

Look, I am not a Christian and I do not care either way for the so-called Christian views in regard to contemporary social issues.

But if indeed Christian views and freedoms are under illegitimate attack - then who would be next in line? It could be any of us!

So some of the author's complaints are indeed a cause for worry, including for the non-Christians among us, while other complaints have no substance.

The complaints without substance are about the inability of Christians (or anyone else for that matter) to join/remain in certain voluntary groups, including political parties and independent employers. After all, one can always form new political parties and either become self-employed or accept employment with someone who does accept them and their views.

The complaint about the inability to foster care is more complex, because in question here are the wishes of the real parents (and of course, of the child him/herself), which the article does not tell.

More serious is the claim of not being allowed to publish one's views over one's private website (assuming it is indeed private).

Most worrying of all is the complaint about not being allowed to teach children and pass over one's values to them even in a private school setting (assuming it is indeed private and does not accept public funds).

I think that the author ought to provide more specific information about the circumstances of their serious complaints.

Never mind that the myth of the cultural superiority and the half-baked ideas of "official" institutional christian-ism has now inevitably come full circle. The "religious" mythologies of the world dominant "great" Middle Eastern "religion"s are not only now waging global wars with one another, but the public masses of "religion"-bound people - who, all over the world, for even thousands of years, have been controlled in body and mind by ancient institutions of "religiously"-propagandized worldly power - are now in a globalized state of grossly and world bound "religious" delusion and social psychosis.

Right-wing Christians are of course the leading edge vectors of this collective social psychois - as are right wing Jews and Islamic fundamentalists.
For classic examples of this "religious" psychosis check out any/all of the essays posted on the Quadrant website, especially by the benighted Peter Smith. Quadrant is of course the ideological home base of the featured essay.

Some in-your-face evidence re the social psychosis that is now being dramatized by right-wing Christians, especially in the case of those who scribble for Quadrant, is their more than enthusiastic support for the Trumpen-fuhrer, or how they collectively suffer from a hell-deep trump-derangement-syndrome (Peter Smith is a prime example of this syndrome)

Daffy. The Bible advises not to cast your pearls before swine. As someone raised by a deeply religious family! I believe that's good advice!

Moreover, almost everyone as a family member or friend who they've know from the cradle and all can attest that their apparent homosexuality, was imposed on them by nature and decided in the mother's womb!

As does the human genome! We know as proven scientific peer-reviewed research, that there are at least two gay genes, with three more probables. Peer-reviewed science these nut jobs, routinely ignore!

But keep on espousing their fallacious views as if they speak for God almighty!

And attack all those who dare to challenge their clearly erroneous views!

And given that's so. The latter the only cohort under sustained attack by, I believe, bible bashing ( oink, oink grunt) homophobes.
Alan B.

If I stand back and look at the bigger picture here, I notice there's a really big elephant in the room:

* Can ANY political party cater to both political correct culture and religious voters at the same time?

- It seems to me NO PARTY can do both.
- They're not compatible, they're contradictory positions
- Conflicting; incongruent.

It's like a monster with two heads

One of the heads is saying this:
"We support Gays, Abortion, Gender and Marriage Equality and Women's Empowerment"

And the other head's saying:
"We oppose gays, abortion, gender and marriage equality and women should submit themselves to their men like the Church submits itself to the Lord".

These two different positions: Well
- They're just NOT THE SAME.
They just don't fit together.

Fundamentally different ideologies.

You can't make a square fit into a round hole.
It's just not going to work.

Have we all become so dumb, that we've completely lost grip on even the basics?
Have we forgotten what we learned from Kermit on Sesame Street?

Three of these things belong together
Three of these things are kinda the same;
But one of these things just doesn't belong here
And now its time to play our game
- Its time to play our game -

Classic Sesame Street - Kermit and Susan play One of these things
http://youtu.be/gCxrkl2igGY

Are we that dumb, that we can't tell the difference when one thing is NOT THE SAME as the other?

Armchair,
PC culture and conservatism both seem to me to be intolerant ideologies that I oppose because of my Christianity. However there are many Christians who do see it differently.

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Alan B.,
Many people have trouble telling the difference between pearls and swine!

Sexuality is not a Boolean case of straight or gay, but a dynamic multidimensional spectrum.

Paul was a NOT a self-confessed homosexual - that's just speculation. And nor is there any Biblical evidence for your claim that Jesus prefered the company of men almost exclusively!

However there is quite a high probability that one of the men Jesus raised from the dead was gay.

Hi ttbn, So true. Being normal is abnormal today. The most persecuted group on Australian soil today is white males.

Hi Aidan, Despite being a conservative christian i agree. Conservatives should NEVER join or support the Liberal Party of Australia.

Leave the LPA to Liberals like Malcolm Turnbull, so that it can become a GLBTIQ+ Alphabet Soup, minor party.

Conservatives, or normal Australians should be joining & supporting genuinely conservative parties like One Nation or the Shooters, Fishers & Farmers party.

Number Lie-bore Last & the Liberal party 2nd last on your ballot papers if you have a brain, or are a normal person.

Hi Alan B, Yet you think you can shove your unproven beliefs down the throat of all Australians who aren't an anti-humanist like yourself.

Hi Yuyutsu, The CCPA or Chinese Communist Party of Australia, otherwise known as the Major Mistakes parties of Australia don't care about "the rights" of ANY Australian.

We have already been sold out & it's only a matter of time before Australia is colonised. Enjoy Maoism, you probably voted for it & will soon be enjoying Maoism.

Hi Daffy Duck, When you are on a chain gang, in a labour camp after Australia has been colonised by Communist China, will you enjoy the experience?

Hello again to Alan B, A question for you in plain, simple english...

Should people who are not part of the mainstream, or are in a minority group, be tolerated or hero worshipped as if they were better than the mainstream?

Hi Armchair Critic, 100% completely agree with you.

Australia has preferential voting which means we DON'T need to have one major party attempting to win a majority of votes in any election.

The Liberal-National coalition is as dead, buried & cremated as work choices.

The coalition needs to be about support for a capitalist economy & be a REAL coalition of parties that run candidates against each other, with a preference swap deal in place.

Hello again Aidan, it's impossible to be a Christian without being socially conservative, which also doesn't force you to hate gays.

Hi imacentristmoderate

"Australia has preferential voting which means we DON'T need to have one major party attempting to win a majority of votes in any election."

I'll let you in on a little secret.
The whole idea of democracy is a little bit of a misnomer.
We don't actually have real democracy.

What we have is the kind of democracy that you have;
- when you don't have an actual real democracy.

Democracy would mean that WE DECIDE OUR OWN FUTURE.
- But that's not how it is.

If you make all democratic elections in sovereign countries a 2 horse race and you make one of those platforms a platform for support of immigrants and international policies (UN);
- Then what you end up with is this:

You don't have a system of NATIONAL DEMOCRACY where the people living here are deciding their own path and future for OUR nation.

What you actually have instead is INTERNATIONAL DEMOCRACY imposed upon sovereign nations.

I show you an article right now, that PROVES that we do NOT have any real say in the future of this nation.
None of us do.
We just been tricked to think we do, when the games already been rigged against us having any say in our own future at all.

http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/jun/19/net-zero-by-2050-over-our-dead-body-bolshie-nationals-tell-scott-morrison

The futures already been decided.
They just create all these stupid identity politics issues;
- Shite that to some extent doesn't even matter, except to keep is going around in circles -
To give us all the SENSE that we ARE having a say in things that matter;
- When the stuff that REALLY matters, HAS ALREADY BEEN DECIDED.

- Change the people, change the Government -
That's how the elites impose their will upon us.

- And this is the reason why people write crap articles
CLAIMING foreign refugees are our most vulnerable;
When they're not even Aussies

And our real most vulnerable, are ignored altogether.

[Cont.]
- From previously linked article;

"Pitt, and his colleagues from regional Queensland, have told their constituents, hand on heart, that coal is king and nothing needs to change – and then Biden went and made a liar of him. After Biden vanquished Donald Trump and brought the US back into the Paris agreement, the global disposition on climate action shifted decisively.

Over this past week, while Morrison bounced from Singapore, to Cornwall, to London and Paris, Nationals MPs back home watched with growing trepidation.

During one mildly hilarious moment in London this week, Johnson, who has been entirely clear that he wants Australia to step up its climate policy ambition before Cop26 in Glasgow in November, told reporters breezily that Morrison had already “declared” for net zero by 2050. BoJo flashed a cherubic grin while the Australian prime minister’s face froze in a rictus."

Seems to me that our countries policies hinge more upon who is elected in the United States, and what the PM of Britain and the Monetary system decide, more than anything ANY of US Australian voters say or think.

And when you have a financial services company with more clout than the US federal Reserve themselves (Blackrock) who are committed to climate change agendas, then they call the shots to the Fed and the RBA.

http://www.afr.com/chanticleer/blackrock-issues-ultimatum-on-net-zero-20210126-p56wwc

Immigration replaces the culture of people who identify as the people who built this country over generations and own it;
It replaces the 'True-Blue Australia Made in Australia' with a 'Multicultural Free-Trade Australia';
- And an idea that we're all immigrants;
- That we're all guests here, and that this nation doesn't actually belong to any of us;
- That nations don't belong to the citizens.
(But the nations debt does)

That it instead belongs to the UN, international treaties and obligations, the Monetary system and the elites.

We don't own this country, all we own is the debt
The debt...
Results from stupid global agendas imposed upon us by foreigners.
- Like shutting down coal plants and forcing poor outcomes (like debt WA government debt doe to energy mismanagement)
- And poorly devised social agendas that don't actually help us in the long run.

- That we ALL end up having to pay for at then end of the day.