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The phoney war on 'privilege' : Comments
By Laurence Maher, published 7/6/2021It was only a matter of time before the quasi-religious contemporary ideology of identity politics began to collapse under the weight of its inherent authoritarianism, contradictions and absurdities.
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Posted by Rhys Jones, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 6:42:06 PM
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Hi Lego. You are correct about average IQ's however that is not the only issue. You can be very smart but if you do not value education and industriousness as the Asian immigrants certainly do, then you will not succeed.
A well known cultural value for Aboriginals is loyalty to and a willingness to support family. If a family member knocks at your door you let them in, regardless of what kind of behaviours they may indulge in. Likewise if they ask you for money you will hand it over. This makes it extremely difficult for aboriginal people to get ahead. If they earn a good living, chances are multiple family members will have their hands out for their share. If you manage to rent a nice house, a bunch of ne'er-do-wells will roll up and move in, create a bunch of damage and disorder and you will get evicted. Culture is at least as important as natural attributes when it comes to getting ahead in life. Blaming the effects of culture on white man fixes nothing though. Posted by Rhys Jones, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 6:49:49 PM
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mhaze,
Congratulations! You've obviously found a kindred spirit in LEGO. Enjoy! Rhys Jones, White privilege is about the word white. It is having advantage built into your life. It's not saying your life has not been hard. It is saying that your skin colour has not contributed to the difficulty in your life. Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 7:00:59 PM
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Hi Foxy, So in that case with all the advantages that Aboriginals have that aren't shared by white people, they must have Aboriginal privilege? Why not just accept that those who are raised well have certain advantages in life that others who are not raised well don't enjoy. Nothing to do with being white, brown black or yellow. Prejudging people as either privileged or oppressed based on the color of their skin seems kind of racist to me.
Posted by Rhys Jones, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 7:29:54 PM
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Hi Rhys. I disagree with your apparent conclusion, (if I am reading you right, correct me if I am not), that IQ is not the salient feature, and cultural values can be as important.
Rhys, smart people have smart cultures. Dumb people have dumb cultures. People who look to education as a way of stepping up in life are pretty smart. Now look at aboriginal people, where state governments have to pay their parents to send their kids to school, and even pay "aboriginal" people a wage to drive "guvmint" supplied cars with "guvmint" supplied petrol to drive the kids to school. I have seen one report which suggested that schools were even providing food for aboriginal kids to get them to come to school. And even then truancy rates are through the roof and academic achievement woeful. I submit that IQ levels are related to the length of time a particular group of people have had to deal with the complexities of civilisation. To build a civilisation, you have to use your brains and develop your higher learning capabilities. The deck was stacked against the aboriginal people because environmental conditions in Australia meant that they could never build a civilsation. To build a civilisation, you must have a reliable food supply. But Australia had no harvestable grains or herdable animals, so aboriginal people stayed at the lowest level of human existence, where higher level thinking was not needed. The only validity to the term "white privilege" that there is, is that in white western society, which is a competitive society, you have to be reasonably smart to fit in. And aboriginal people can never do that because of their collective low IQ levels. But the erroneous idea that all races are equal is now so taken for granted, that when reality proves that premise completely wrong, we get ideologues like Foxy advocating the most nutty and racist ideas like "white privilege", because they refuse to look at the truth. Posted by LEGO, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 4:05:23 AM
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Rhys Jones,
The following link may be of interest: http://www.sbs.com.au/topics/voices/culture/article/2016/12/07/heres-truth-about-free-ride-some-australians-think-indigenous-peoples-get Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 8:34:32 AM
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of racism. An absence of structural discrimination.
An absence of their race being viewed as a problem
first and foremost."
But this just isn't true. White people can be and are discriminated against all the time. How many job adverts specify that Aboriginal people, women, people with ESL etc are encouraged to apply? Why not just say "white men need not apply"?
The idea that Aboriginal people are viewed as a problem first and foremost is simply untrue. There is no better place anywhere in the world to be aboriginal and no better time either. When or where have aboriginals had more opportunities than in Australia today? Almost every business and the entire public sector are desperate to employ aboriginals. All sorts of scholarships and financial assistance is available to study at university or enter into a trade. There are even special phone lines at Centrelink so they don't have to wait in a queue with everyone else. The world is certainly your oyster if you have aboriginal heritage. And instead of us celebrating this, we tell them they can never get ahead because the racist white man has his boot on their neck. No wonder there is so much division and hatred in our society.