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The phoney war on 'privilege' : Comments

By Laurence Maher, published 7/6/2021

It was only a matter of time before the quasi-religious contemporary ideology of identity politics began to collapse under the weight of its inherent authoritarianism, contradictions and absurdities.

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Identity politics is an invention of the left for a very good reason. The Left has always pretended to be the champions of the lower classes, meaning the disadvantaged and working classes, as that was where the numbers were. These two classes, the working class especially, represent the bulk of voters in the electorate.

But the left had a problem. Rising prosperity in the western world, caused mainly by free market capitalism, was making everybody richer. The disadvantaged class was perfectly happy living on the dole and not working, while working class people in the main, were doing very well indeed. Who needed a "Labor" Party anymore?

Enter Tammany Hall politics, which is another word for Identity Politics. In the USA, one clever Democrat Irish/American politician realised that spruiking to the electorate about how superior your policies were over Republicans, was pointless. He realised that the incoming waves of immigrants were blank cheques just waiting for somebody to claim to represent them. So he began the process of what we call today identity politics. That is, always sucking up to immigrant and minority groups, and claiming to be their representatives. Sneering at whites pays dividends too.

The social cohesion of Western societies everywhere have now been ruptured by incoming waves of non western immigrants, many of them with cultural values diametrically opposed to the host population. The left has now abandoned it's traditional lower class voters, and this has not gone unnoticed by these people. These mostly working class people are "Howard's battlers" who are now voting against the left and for Trump, Brexit, and Scott Morrison.

The left on the other hand has gone after the immigrants, and any other disaffected minority, in a big way. No matter how bizarre or stupid the cultural demands of immigrants, the left will support it. The best examples would be gender divided public swimming pools for Muslims, and the rule allowing Sikh boys to take daggers to school. The left unashamedly pork barrels the multicultural organisations it sponsors and supports with public money, to buy the ethnic and minority votes.
Posted by LEGO, Monday, 7 June 2021 8:38:21 AM
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Phoney war indeed and from the pen of one of the, I believe, privileged absurdities?

Given these folk with their arrogance and almost to a generic man, massively overvalue their actual worth to an egalitarian society? And like the privileged, pompous popinjay, write for their class with absurd Authoritarian arrogance, only seen in in the born to rule, privileged elite?

I find nothing in this devil's advocate defence to commend it!

It argues for privilege as if it were a right? Much in the manner of a slave-owning, plantation owner arguing a case for his status quo.

Given the position of many of the underprivileged is little above that of a slave? None more so than many of our single mums!

The very first cultural warrior that argued against this arrogant absurdity was none other than Jesus Christ, who with a whip in hand drove the money men from his Father's house and with a rage not reported elsewhere in religious text, so opposed to the corrupt practice of the worship of money (mannon) for its own sake, was this man of peace and love.

Neither of which, I believe, this arrogant Author gets? Or, has ever genuinely experienced?
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Monday, 7 June 2021 10:52:09 AM
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I guess it's difficult for someone who possibly
has not experienced racism to be angry and revert
to talking about "identity politics," as this
author does. And of course this can lead to
resentment which is understandable.

However the reality is as the Human Rights Organisation
in Australia points out - "Many people experience
racist behaviour." They've found that 20% of Australians
surveyed had experienced racial discrimination in the
form of race hate talk, and about 5% had been attacked
because of their race.

Then there are some groups who apparently experience
racism at higher rates. Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander
peole, and those from culturally diverse backgrounds, often
have to deal with systemic forms of discrimination.

Such experiences limit the access that members of these
groups enjoy to the opportunities and resources offered
to many people from Anglo-Australian backgrounds.

Migrants and refugees also regularly experience racism,
in particular those who have recently arrived.
Media reports and commentary that uses negative
stereotypes about refugees and migrants can fuel prejudice
against these groups in the wider community.

Also let us not forget that it was government policy
that encouraged these attitudes (White Australia Policy),
so with our history - it is easy to see where the author's
thinking comes from. But in Modern Australia - he really
needs to realize that his thinking is outmoded and needs
to change.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 7 June 2021 11:54:07 AM
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OOOps - sorry I should have said in my opening
sentence - that it is easy not difficult for
someone who hasn't experienced racism ....
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 7 June 2021 11:56:16 AM
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I identify as an elderly, left-handed, masculine-presenting, trans-gendered, BBW, lesbian of colour with special abilities in a wheelchair.

That should have all the bases covered now, so you can no longer discriminate against me anymore.
Posted by imacentristmoderate, Monday, 7 June 2021 2:28:16 PM
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Hi LEGO, Spot on. It's also Cold War, KGB, cultural cancer.

Very cleverly designed by the ruling, leftist elites to strategically weaken capitalist democracies. While communist countries are strategically strengthened by us also exporting our manufacturing might or industrial power to Communist China.

Isn't treason supposed to be a crime?

Hi Alan B, Underprivileged Australian males are living in a Marxist Matriarchy & refer to marriage as "the plantation".

But of course you already knew that didn't you?

Hi Foxy, You are joking aren't you? NOBODY in the Land of OZ is more discriminated against than white males. But of course you already knew that, didn't you?

I don't hate anybody, you however hate white people, including yourself, but especially white males.

BTW:- What do you think life will be like after the Communist Chinese have successfully colonised Australia?
Posted by imacentristmoderate, Monday, 7 June 2021 2:59:28 PM
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As a white person, Foxy, I experience racism against my race every day. The absurd premise of "white privelege" is in fact racism against the white race. It presupposes that the entire white race is doing something insidious to deny equality to dysfunctional minorities. So, if aboriginal women get murdered at a rate 8 times greater than everyone else, blame the white guy. 6 year old Aboriginal kids being screened for sexiually transmitted diseases? That's the white man's fault too. Pacific Islanders, aborigines, Lebanese and Vietnamese being jailed for crimes of violence and drug trafficking at much higher rates than other people in Australian society? Who ya gunna blame? The white race of course.

In the USA, according one report by a Nicholas Stix, (The Colour of Crime) , blacks are 39 times more likely to commit an act of violence against whites, as whites are against blacks. * Between 2001 and 2003, blacks committed, on average, 15,400 black-on-white rapes per year, while whites averaged only 900 white-on-black rapes per year.

Based on these figures, Foxy, which race is more racist?

Then there was the so called "stolen generations" fable. This slander was completely squashed by the High Court of Australia, with the removal of aboriginal children from their uncaring, drunken, drug affected partents (still going on today at a greater rate) by one High Court judge "a humanitarian obligation."

But this humanitarian policy, which was originally proposed by the Australian Communist Party and adopted by our responsible state and federal governments as a worthy humanitarian assistance to deprived and neglected aboriginal children, was turned around by the Left itself to be portrayed as genocide by the white Australians against the poor, oppressed aboriginal people. This amounted to promoting outright racial hatred of the white race by the left. But Foxy does not care what the truth is. Her compulsive need to be thought of as anti racist and compassionate to blacks, and her compulsive need to self flagellate and virtue signal, means she is perfectly prepared to believe any slanderous charge against her own race.
Posted by LEGO, Monday, 7 June 2021 4:38:42 PM
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India got itself into a terrible position because the arrogant privileged elite, made their money off of poverty-stricken slumdogs who could not stay home when sick!

The privileged elite the world over believe that they're deserving of their wealth and privileged positions?

And racism is not peculiar to the white race! Touring West Indian player can recall rude Indian fans jabbering away and hurling insults that compared these players to monkeys!

As a son of a deserted single mum trying to raise four kids on her Pat Malone, we four were regularly bullied by the more privileged, just for being poor!

When I graduated as an Army medic, the young Doctors in the room knew that theirs didn't smell. And were very surprised when a kid who hadn't completed a single year in high school, not only bested them but did so with a passing grade that broke an unassailed 70-year record.

Moreover, when I move to Tasmania I managed a 100% result when I had to requalify. And all of the above part of a validating public record!

I've lived a life that proves that underserving privilege uses its power and position to preserve and indeed uses bogus argument to justify their positions!

The endless argument that if you have a go, you'll get a go holds little if any water! Given the expectations of the privileged elite!

Ask yourself, how many board position go to the ablest? And how many are handed on to members of the old school tie?

And how many employers claim the credit for the ideas/intellectual property of employees, but instead have them purloined for peanuts by the greedy employer? Who sees it as a right extended by privilege and rank?

The article reeks to the high heavens, I believe, with more of the same BS the privileged elite use to preserve their positions and master-servant, stations in life.
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Monday, 7 June 2021 6:25:47 PM
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White privilege is an absence of the consequences
of racism. An absence of structural discrimination.
An absence of their race being viewed as a problem
first and foremost.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 7 June 2021 6:52:32 PM
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Is it not unreasonable to think that white skinned people who came from colder climates simply became more adept at building things, like houses to stay warm and places to store food though the winter;
Where dark skinned people came from places where there was less need to build houses that would protect one from the cold, and didn't need to store food as it was more abundant all year round.

Think about that.
Did this reality place white people as better builders, who built towns, cities, trading routes, shipping and commerce from those colder colder climates than darker skinned people, who continued with a more tribal existence far longer?

If this is the case then white privileged isn't white privileged.
The truth is white skinned probably had to work a lot harder and smarter to survive in those colder climates.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 7 June 2021 10:32:57 PM
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I would like to refute Alan B's, reply, as he has made some very good points which are collectively way off the mark.

Privilege has existed in every society throughout history, so just pointing to a particular privilege in even a very egalitarian society and then claiming that this proves that the whole social system is rotten, is nonsensical. This is what the left is trying to do with western civilization, the most fair, least racist, least sexist, least privileged, most representative, social system in human history.

What Lawrence Maher is talking about in his topic, is refuting the claim that western civilisation somehow benefits whites only. The proof of the pudding is that within white western society, Asian people do even better than whites. Why? Because on average, Asian people on average are around 3 to 10 IQ points smarter than white people. Therefore, the key to understanding success or dysfunction within western society is IQ.

Within any society, those at the bottom will posses either a low IQ or have IQ "talents" that are more common in society. Those at the top are, on the whole, much more smarter or they may possess IQ "talents" which are rarer and in demand. Smart lower caste people of any race are generally upwardly mobile in white western society. Dumb upper class people are generally protected from social decay through family money and connections. That is privilege, and it exists in every society. The character of the completely clueless upper class twit is a favourite character in many movies.

The idea that everybody is equal, is a left wing socialist ideal, and it is complete malarky.

The failure of the left's ideology, which claims that all the people comprising all the classes and races are equal, is self evidently not reflected in achievement. This inconvenient fact has to be explained away. The left does that by sucking up to their new dysfunctional, non white, non Asian, low IQ electors, by blaming white people for their electors lack of success.

Claiming "white privilege" exists is just anti white racism.
Posted by LEGO, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 4:04:29 AM
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"There's a good reason why nobody studies history,
it just teaches you too much."

(Noam Chomsky).
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 8:09:23 AM
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So Chomsky didn't study it...he just made it up. And his faithful cultists believed it.

"Chomsky's articles are full of learned sounding citations, in which he cites all sorts of impeccably respectable sources for all sorts of astonishing facts. Highly improbable facts. How does he do it? Easy. He makes it up."

http://reaction.la/chomsdis.htm
Posted by mhaze, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 9:53:29 AM
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mhaze,

There's nothing
wrong in "making it up," as long as you don't
"screw up." In the case of Noam Chomsky -
you have done precisely that!

Noam Chomsky is an eminent American
theoretical linguist, cognitive scientist and
philosopher, who radically changed the arena
of linguistics by assuming language as a
uniquely human biologically based cognitive
capacity. He suggested that innate traits in the
human brain give birth to both language and
grammar.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 12:11:46 PM
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There's nothing wrong in "making it up,".

Really? OKaaaaaay!

Did you read the article I linked? Did you understand the article I linked?

We weren't talking about his linguistic efforts but his views on history. You raised it.

He might have been OK as a linguist but as an historian he was a mere shrill for communism who was perfectly OK with just creating his own 'facts' while deceiving those anxious to be deceived. Would that be you, Foxy?
Posted by mhaze, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 12:59:52 PM
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mhaze,

Chomsky's comment on history was just that.
Your link was irrelevant.
Chomsky is subject to critique like everyone
else, however one would expect a critique
of Chomsky to be well founded and well
argued. Yours was not.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 1:14:28 PM
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"Chomsky's comment on history was just that."

Well you're the one who mentioned it as though it was relevant and valid. Good to see you recognise the error of your ways.

" however one would expect a critique
of Chomsky to be well founded and well
argued. Yours was not."

Well if that were so you'd show some examples. Well not you, but someone who knew what they were talking about. Just asserting it wasn't well-founded isn't the same as demonstrating it wasn't well-founded although I suspect you won't understand that.
Posted by mhaze, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 2:02:47 PM
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Sic her, Mhaze. That's my boy.
Posted by LEGO, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 4:25:41 PM
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Foxy says: "White privilege is an absence of the consequences
of racism. An absence of structural discrimination.
An absence of their race being viewed as a problem
first and foremost."
But this just isn't true. White people can be and are discriminated against all the time. How many job adverts specify that Aboriginal people, women, people with ESL etc are encouraged to apply? Why not just say "white men need not apply"?
The idea that Aboriginal people are viewed as a problem first and foremost is simply untrue. There is no better place anywhere in the world to be aboriginal and no better time either. When or where have aboriginals had more opportunities than in Australia today? Almost every business and the entire public sector are desperate to employ aboriginals. All sorts of scholarships and financial assistance is available to study at university or enter into a trade. There are even special phone lines at Centrelink so they don't have to wait in a queue with everyone else. The world is certainly your oyster if you have aboriginal heritage. And instead of us celebrating this, we tell them they can never get ahead because the racist white man has his boot on their neck. No wonder there is so much division and hatred in our society.
Posted by Rhys Jones, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 6:42:06 PM
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Hi Lego. You are correct about average IQ's however that is not the only issue. You can be very smart but if you do not value education and industriousness as the Asian immigrants certainly do, then you will not succeed.
A well known cultural value for Aboriginals is loyalty to and a willingness to support family. If a family member knocks at your door you let them in, regardless of what kind of behaviours they may indulge in. Likewise if they ask you for money you will hand it over. This makes it extremely difficult for aboriginal people to get ahead. If they earn a good living, chances are multiple family members will have their hands out for their share. If you manage to rent a nice house, a bunch of ne'er-do-wells will roll up and move in, create a bunch of damage and disorder and you will get evicted. Culture is at least as important as natural attributes when it comes to getting ahead in life. Blaming the effects of culture on white man fixes nothing though.
Posted by Rhys Jones, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 6:49:49 PM
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mhaze,

Congratulations! You've obviously found a kindred
spirit in LEGO.

Enjoy!

Rhys Jones,

White privilege is about the word white.
It is having advantage built into your life.
It's not saying your life has not been hard.
It is saying that your skin colour has not
contributed to the difficulty in your life.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 7:00:59 PM
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Hi Foxy, So in that case with all the advantages that Aboriginals have that aren't shared by white people, they must have Aboriginal privilege? Why not just accept that those who are raised well have certain advantages in life that others who are not raised well don't enjoy. Nothing to do with being white, brown black or yellow. Prejudging people as either privileged or oppressed based on the color of their skin seems kind of racist to me.
Posted by Rhys Jones, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 7:29:54 PM
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Hi Rhys. I disagree with your apparent conclusion, (if I am reading you right, correct me if I am not), that IQ is not the salient feature, and cultural values can be as important.

Rhys, smart people have smart cultures. Dumb people have dumb cultures. People who look to education as a way of stepping up in life are pretty smart. Now look at aboriginal people, where state governments have to pay their parents to send their kids to school, and even pay "aboriginal" people a wage to drive "guvmint" supplied cars with "guvmint" supplied petrol to drive the kids to school. I have seen one report which suggested that schools were even providing food for aboriginal kids to get them to come to school. And even then truancy rates are through the roof and academic achievement woeful.

I submit that IQ levels are related to the length of time a particular group of people have had to deal with the complexities of civilisation. To build a civilisation, you have to use your brains and develop your higher learning capabilities. The deck was stacked against the aboriginal people because environmental conditions in Australia meant that they could never build a civilsation. To build a civilisation, you must have a reliable food supply. But Australia had no harvestable grains or herdable animals, so aboriginal people stayed at the lowest level of human existence, where higher level thinking was not needed.

The only validity to the term "white privilege" that there is, is that in white western society, which is a competitive society, you have to be reasonably smart to fit in. And aboriginal people can never do that because of their collective low IQ levels. But the erroneous idea that all races are equal is now so taken for granted, that when reality proves that premise completely wrong, we get ideologues like Foxy advocating the most nutty and racist ideas like "white privilege", because they refuse to look at the truth.
Posted by LEGO, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 4:05:23 AM
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Rhys Jones,

The following link may be of interest:

http://www.sbs.com.au/topics/voices/culture/article/2016/12/07/heres-truth-about-free-ride-some-australians-think-indigenous-peoples-get
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 8:34:32 AM
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"Speaking to an assembled audience about aboriginal scholarships to Shoalhaven High School, John Dyball, former deputy principal at the School, said that the scholarships were not based on academic results or sporting ability, but on "resilience" - "someone who is willing to test the edges of their capacity".

Canberra Times.
Posted by LEGO, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 10:31:25 AM
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LEGO,

Here's something about White Privilege as it applies
to Australia:

http://www.theconversation.com/australia-needs-to-confront-its-history-0f-white-privilege-to-provide-a-level-playing-field-for-all-139755
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 1:42:17 PM
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Thank you, Foxy, I love picking apart the logic of leftist propaganda, the sort of propaganda that seems to have influenced you to despise your own people and your own culture. Of course, I was subject to the same nonsense when I was a young lefty, but I was smart enough to see right through it. I was working class, so peer group pressure from academia never affected me.

I could just pick apart the logic of the whole article, but that would take too long.

So let's try pure logic. Hitler blamed the problems of the people of Germany on the Jews, didn't he? And that is definitely racism, right? OK then, if you and your lefty friends blame the endemic problems of dysfunctional minorities on the white race, then you are doing what the Nazi Party did. You are committing an act of racism. If you can't see that, then you are not looking very hard.

The charge of "white privilege" is racism. It presupposes that white society is doing something insidious to dysfunctional minorities that prevents them from getting ahead. And as I have pointed out previously, it is not only racism, it is a charge that does not seem to affect Asians, who do better in white society than whites.

Lefties like your good self have convinced themselves that all races are equal. But the problem with that unproven theory and child like act of faith, is that quite self evidently, in a competitive society, most of the members of certain races and ethnicities always inhabit the lowest class, and never cease being a problem. "White privilege" was dreamed up by lefties to do two things.

First. To explain why their belief that all races are equal never pans out in everyday reality.

Second. To suck up to the dysfunctional minorities who's numbers keep rising through immigration and birth rate differentials, to get their votes.

This is fuelling racial hatred against the white race, Foxy, which I presume is your own race. And it is also destroying your own civilisation, the one you live in.
Posted by LEGO, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 2:46:20 PM
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My privilege is gained by:

Being smart,
Working hard,
working long hours
Being frugal,

My kids are privileged because:

They value their education,
They work hard at school,
They have a father who helps them with problems.

Everyone else is privileged to have them as compatriots as they will:
Pay taxes that support others,
Not be dependent on the state.
Posted by shadowminister, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 3:22:07 PM
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Shadow Minister,

What makes you think that you're the only one with
those values? Many other Australians share these values
(and much more) as well
but because they are "different" they have to do so
from a lower base than you and their progress in this
country has not been the same as yours.

Look at the demographics. The previous cited
link tells us that - Very few older Australians
beyond their 50s are of non-European descent and this
demographic feature is now hard-baked into politics
and policy debate.

It is nothing less than embarrasing that in Modern
day Australia, almost all senior roles in government
and business are held by middle-aged white men who
have grown up and prospered at a time when Australia
was etnically homogenous. They grew up to trust and
work collaboratively with those " just like us."

These men never had to compete in a wider pool and
continue to behave to restrict competition in
order to maintain their privilege. Many mediocre white
men have been excused from competing as a result.

Australia's reputation for fairness will be eroded in the
eyes of future generations. Young, educated, liberal, urban,
white Australians just may object to the discriminatory
practices going unchecked and call for tougher
actions by government.

The true extent of Australia's "fair go" mantra will not
depend so much on the transmission of older values and
symbols to newer more diverse Australians, rather it
depends fundamentally on their experiences in education
and employment being free of white privilege.

This will determine whether they truly believe there is
a level playing field.

Taking from the following link:

http://www.thecoversation.com/australia-needs-to-confront-its-history-of-white-privilege-to-provide-a-level-playing-field-foe-all-139755
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 10 June 2021 8:55:50 AM
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cont'd ...

Sorry for the typo - here's the link again:

http://www.thecoversation.com/australia-needs-to-confront-its-history-of-white-privilege-to-provide-a-level-playing-field-for-all-139755
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 10 June 2021 9:01:03 AM
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Hi LEGO if your still looking at this thread. Of course much of what you say is correct. However culture does have a large and independent impact. As you mention earlier the Chinese have on average higher IQ's than white people. However, their ancient and sophisticated culture resulted in stagnation at a time when Europe was becoming increasingly technologically sophisticated. I believe this was due to the cultural values inherent in Chinese society of discouraging free thinking while in Europe at this period they had recently thrown off the shackles of religious dogma which led to huge advances in science and technology.
I agree that it is unlikely that we will ever see the same levels of income in Aboriginal people as we do in Chinese or Indian Immigrants. However, if the Aboriginal people were to adopt Chinese values of hard work, love of education and love of doing business, they would improve their material wealth no end. I guess the question is can a people change their culture? We have seen huge changes in Australian culture over the past half century, so I think culture can change. It just can't be forced on people.
Posted by Rhys Jones, Thursday, 10 June 2021 11:49:50 AM
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Hi Foxy,
I don't know why you think that Shadowminister believes she/he is the only one with those values. Those values are held by nearly all successful Australians regardless of their skin color. I can clearly see the enormous progress made by Indians and Chinese in Australia and I can see the groups of white Australians who do not share those values going backwards. That is the point that shadowminister was making. No such thing as white privilege. Just a good set of values and lots of hard work. Unless of course you believe they are suffering from yellow and brown privilege respectively.
Incidentally, I would probably steer clear of SBS and the Conversation if you want unbiased information rather than left wing propaganda.
Posted by Rhys Jones, Thursday, 10 June 2021 12:01:35 PM
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Hi Rhys. My reading of history convinced me that probably the most important factor in why Europeans began thinking straight, was because they were always at war with each other. War makes people think straight. Those who relied on supernatural factors to win their wars, generally lost. And the consequences of losing could be so catastrophic (vae victus) that it forced Europeans to look beyond blind faith and tradition.

Science and technology languished during the Dark Ages, until inventive men started demonstrating to pontiffs and princelings, how their new inventions could be flung in the face of their enemies. War is competition on steroids. Look at aeroplane design and advancement from 1939-1945.

If you think that Asians have higher IQ then you are on the right track. But pure bred aboriginal people appear to me to have very low IQ's, and one program on "race" on SBS even confirmed that premise. Unfortunately, to get by in a modern society you need to have a certain level of intelligence, and aboriginal people and many other black races do not have that. They then adopt dumb cultures to go with their low intelligence. Unless you think that rap "musicians" singing songs about raping their mothers, shooting gang members, and bashing their "hoes" to death is high culture?

We could ask Foxy, that, if white privilege is keeping "people of colour" down, why do they all want to live with us? Why is practically every non white and non Asian country an economic basket case? The Africans once thought that expelling the Europeans and Asians would eventually see them all equal in wealth and prosperity as their former colonial masters. That did not end well. But according to Foxy's absolute faith in racial equality, without whites to keep the blacks down, these African countries should have prospered.

People like Foxy insisted that aboriginal people should be equal to whites in every way. The result of that stupid concept was that aborigines got the right to drink alcohol. That was the beginning of aboriginal dysfunction and their very high rates of serious criminal behaviour.
Posted by LEGO, Thursday, 10 June 2021 4:09:08 PM
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Foxy,

The conversation article by Mike Tsika is simplistic and superficial.

Yes, while the proportion of European heritage senior managers do represent the demographics of 30 years the reality is that only a few people reach senior manager status and those that do are smart, competent and very hard working and generally get there after several decades.

While there are plenty of capable immigrants, most have a long way to climb up the corporate ladder.
Posted by shadowminister, Friday, 11 June 2021 12:34:14 PM
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