That's what I was trying to say SR,
Israel decided it wanted everyone else gone;
And that was 50 years before it even became a modern state in 1947.
And Davids quick to throw out all the treaties when it suits him.

But he himself likes to omit or ignore the parts that suit him.
But even with the Balfaur Declaration he ignores the parts that suit him.

"His Majesty's Government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to fascilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may predjudice the civil and religious rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country"

[Parts omitted; just in case David throws a tantrum.]

http://www.science.co.il/israel-history/images/Balfour-Declaration.jpg
- Obviously it wasn't 'clearly understood'.

David will talk about Balfour Declaration and use it when it suits him:
http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=19398&page=0

Quote>>5. Ambassador Jonathan Allen - UK deputy permanent representative to the UN told the Security Council on 17 October:
And let us remember, there are two halves of Balfour, the second half of which has not been fulfilled. There is therefore unfinished business.
Ambassador Allen was spouting pure unadulterated fiction. There are no two halves of the Balfour Declaration.<<

So David, what do you have to say about this?

Any normal person would read the declaration and hear what Ambassador Allen said and assume he was referencing the section that said 'it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may predjudice the civil and religious rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country';
- i.e referencing a 2 state solution.
- the declaration does not say you can murder and take land forever until nothings left does it?

Is that how you'd read that SteeleRedux?

Seems to me Davids quite happy himself to omit that which suits him, but if others do it, it's a cover-up and an act of deliberate calculated jew-hate.

- I'm honestly not sure he's all there.

Why are people who aren't radical, extreme, left wing, bothering to argue with people on this blog, who ARE radical, extreme left wing & anti-semitic or anti-israel as well?

"You can lead a leftist to accurate, easily verified information, but unlike a horse, you can't make a leftist think, anything, at all"

# Armchair Critic

Your obvious hatred of Jews continues to permeate your further comments. The more you rant, the more your hatred is exposed.

I am more than happy to correct your comments about the Balfour Declaration

1. The Declaration did not refer to "the Palestinians" but only to the "existing non-Jewish communities". The term "Palestinians" was not invented and defined until 1964 with the creation of the PLO. The Balfour Declaration clearly disabuses any notion that there was any Palestinian people or Palestinian nation then in existence.

2. The civil and religious rights of the existing non-Jewish communities were indeed not to be prejudiced. But no mention of them having any political rights appeared in the Declaration because they had none - having been subjects of the Ottoman Empire for over 400 years.

3. The Balfour Declaration had no legal effect until it was included in the League of Nations Mandate for Palestine - the territory of Palestine being defined by the Mandate to include what is today called Israel, Jordan, Gaza and the West Bank (Judea and Samaria).

4. The Mandate allocated 22% of the territory of Palestine - Israel, Gaza and the West Bank (Judea and Samaria) - as the site for the reconstitution of the Jewish National Home whilst the remaining 78% - Jordan - was closed to Jewish settlement. The Jews accepted this decision reluctantly but the Arabs never did and have continued to reject it for the last 100 years.

This is the only two-state solution that has any chance of succeeding: Israel and Jordan redrawing the existing international boundary between their two existing states in direct negotiations. This should result in the Arabs gaining sovereignty in about 80% of former Palestine and the Jews in the remaining 20%.

Dear Armchair Critic,

As Chomsky says "Christian Zionism is a very powerful force which goes back long before Jewish Zionism".
http://youtu.be/lUQ_0MubbcM

It was Christian Zionism which informed the Balfour Declaration and cruelled the promises of self determination made to the Arabs during WW1.

david singer,

Continuing to whore out the 'jew hatred' slur I see. All I hear is the utter disrespect you must surely have for history of anti-semiticism. Shame.

SR,

So what, Likud's platform has changed over the past 50 years from that when all Arabs were intent on genocide. If Hamas wants peace it will have to change from its genocidal agenda.

SR, AC,

Both of you are by all common definitions anti-semitic. Deal with it.

shadowminister,

And you mate are a pathetic little hive mind whose politics are so bereft of individual thought you have to follow nasty little apologists for Israeli's atrocities and war crimes and parrot their utterances just to have some inkling of relevance.

But I still engage with you such is my forbearance.

Just as Likud changed their platform, so did Hamas in 2017 via their Document of general principles and policies.

In part it reads:

“16. Hamas affirms that its conflict is with the Zionist project not with the Jews because of their religion. Hamas does not wage a struggle against the Jews because they are Jewish but wages a struggle against the Zionists who occupy Palestine. Yet, it is the Zionists who constantly identify Judaism and the Jews with their own colonial project and illegal entity.

17. Hamas rejects the persecution of any human being or the undermining of his or her rights on nationalist, religious or sectarian grounds. Hamas is of the view that the Jewish problem, anti-Semitism and the persecution of the Jews are phenomena fundamentally linked to European history and not to the history of the Arabs and the Muslims or to their heritage. The Zionist movement, which was able with the help of Western powers to occupy Palestine, is the most dangerous form of settlement occupation which has already disappeared from much of the world and must disappear from Palestine.”
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/hamas-2017-document-of-general-principles-and-policies

Dear imacentristmoderate.

Mate you really are short a few roos in the top paddock aren't you.

As to this:
"You can lead a leftist to accurate, easily verified information, but unlike a horse, you can't make a leftist think, anything, at all"

Utter projection of course, the type of which hard right loonies like yourself are usually so quick to fall back on. You really should think about giving it a rest. You are actually making a lightweight like shadowminister look a smidge substantial, which he patently is not.