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How David Attenborough and the catastrophist crew have humanity wrong : Comments
By Graham Young, published 5/5/2021He's not the only environmentalist to downgrade and misclassify homo sapiens, but it is a damaging mistake to pretend that, somehow, we are not members, albeit the most outstanding members, of nature.
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Posted by Aidan, Tuesday, 11 May 2021 12:31:26 AM
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Talking your book again, Andras, as an "education consultant" bringing in foreign students. COVID really must be hitting your bottom line. So anyone who doesn't think that humans and their domestic animals should be 100% of mammal biomass instead of only 96% must be an anti-Semite and a white supremacist? No one, after all, could really care about nature or overloading our planetary life support systems rather than just about money.
Posted by Divergence, Tuesday, 11 May 2021 10:51:49 AM
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I find it amusing that SR's ego is so overinflated as to suggest that left whingers antipathy towards humanity shows that they are far more "evolved" than conservatives and are no longer restrained by logic or reason.
That ecological damage is far more prevalent in 3rd world countries than in OECD countries would indicate that development is the answer. Posted by shadowminister, Tuesday, 11 May 2021 11:36:41 AM
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You're half right, Shadow:
Sustainable development is the answer. Posted by Aidan, Tuesday, 11 May 2021 11:57:12 AM
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'Talking your book again, Andras, as an "education consultant" bringing in foreign students. COVID really must be hitting your bottom line'
What else don't you know, ten years out of date? That's all you can respond to facts with, infantile jabs? Here's related article from Malcolm King all those years ago warning of Attenborough et al. and Sustainable Population Australia (formerly Stable Population) in 'Stable Population cuckoos invade Australia' (4 July 2013): 'The Stable Population Party (SPP) is the bastard child of Big Brother's persuasive social engineering methods. It has been succored by the Optimum Population Trust (now called Population Matters UK) and had, through one of its Senate candidates, links to right wing anti-immigration figures such as John Tanton and the Social Contract Press in the US. The SPP is using environmental and heritage groups - much as cuckoos lay their eggs in the nests of other birds - to hatch their anti-immigration message in the lead up to the September Federal election. The party has no environmental credentials' https://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=15206 Trying to socially engineer Australia..... Posted by Andras Smith, Tuesday, 11 May 2021 6:25:24 PM
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Shadowminister,
True to form you have conflated a developed sense of empathy for other species with being anti-human. You obviously aren't aware how very boring this tactic from you has become. You don't even attempt to disguise it any more. Then there is this little pearl: “That ecological damage is far more prevalent in 3rd world countries than in OECD countries would indicate that development is the answer.” Utter crap, unless you consider Australia with its land clearing and species extinction record as being the product of a third world country. Costa Rica, a developing nation, has done an extraordinary job of reforestation. “"In the 1970s and 1980s Costa Rica had one of the highest deforestation rates in Latin America, but it managed to turn that around in a relatively short period of time." Costa Rica is the first tropical country to have stopped -- and subsequently reversed – deforestation.” http://edition.cnn.com/2020/07/27/americas/reforestation-costa-rica-c2e-spc/index.html While in Australia we have on of the worst records in the world. http://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2020-10-08/deforestation-land-clearing-australia-state-by-state/12535438 Look I'm sure these little factoids are created somewhere within that brain of yours and another part regurgitates them as truth, but perhaps it would do us a service if you checked them once in a while. Posted by SteeleRedux, Tuesday, 11 May 2021 6:50:56 PM
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Worshippers? I'm pretty sure the number of people who worship David Attenborough is precisely zero. Nor is he a saint - he's just a nature documentary filmmaker who's very good at his job and has become famous for it.
Your claim that he thinks man has no more value than mice is ridiculous. You're putting two and two together and getting twenty two.
Rather than his (imaginary) worshippers, it's practically all people who are consistently capable of rational thought to which "that doesn't mean he wants humans excluded from the natural world". But I've noticed quite a large proportion of right wingers always attribute the worst motives to their opponents, and suspend rational thought when it doesn't suit their agenda. It's a phenomenon which Trump exploited to get elected, but it was noticeable on this board long before then.