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How David Attenborough and the catastrophist crew have humanity wrong : Comments

By Graham Young, published 5/5/2021

He's not the only environmentalist to downgrade and misclassify homo sapiens, but it is a damaging mistake to pretend that, somehow, we are not members, albeit the most outstanding members, of nature.

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I read this article in Spectator. Excellent Graham. I wonder if it will be as well accepted here as it would be by Spectator readers.

Attenborough, a one time authority and hero of nature, has fallen for the tricks of the manipulators and is desperate to be relevant when he should have retired gracefully when he had the chance. A sad old man.
Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 5 May 2021 8:42:20 AM
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At various times dominant species like the trilobites and dinosaurs must have thought they were in control but it didn't end well. My suspicion is that the Earth could only support say 1 bn people if we had to live off wind and solar. That would be only after a fossil fuelled orgy of building solar panels and wind turbines.

I suspect it will become clearer this decade (ie by 2030) that 7.7 bn is too many for everybody to eat steak, drive a car and take air travel. One reason we are so numerous is the geological accident that an accumulation of coal, oil and gas was laid out for us to exploit. That will turn into a shortage after leaving behind its waste product, namely an unstable climate. The next generation will have much tougher conditions.
Posted by Taswegian, Wednesday, 5 May 2021 9:04:41 AM
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Human compassion has a hand in all these excesses. Whilst the going is good, compassion is misplaced & causes many problems. When the going is tough, compassion flies out the window to a large extent.
We now have humans who gamble with the fate of mankind for the sake of undeserving humans who out-breed all but insects !
Posted by individual, Wednesday, 5 May 2021 9:18:33 AM
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The really important question this raises is, “Is the world supposed to be in one state rather than another?”

If the universe, including humanity, has just happened to come into being by unintentional, unconscious physical processes then logically it follows that no, there is no particular state that the world should be in.

A world with lots of humans or no humans, with lots of whales or no whales, lots of rats or no rats, is just as “right” or “wrong” as any other.

We may have preferences for how we would like the world to be but in a materialistic universe such preferences don’t actually mean anything or have any moral weight.

Graham, you mention the creation account from Genesis but you failed to note that that account explicitly affirms that human beings are unique in the universe – having alone been created in the image of God.

It is not by some odd quirk of evolution that there just happens to be this undeniable, enormous gulf between human beings and the rest of the physical universe.

Yes, human beings are physical creatures but there is something much more to us than that. Indeed, that is blindingly obvious, but incredibly many choose to turn a blind eye to the obvious.
Posted by JP, Wednesday, 5 May 2021 10:20:15 AM
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Rather than taking David Attenborough's comments out of context and libellously attributing anti-human motives to him, you should take three minutes to watch them in context:
http://www.bbc.com/news/av/science-environment-56752541
Posted by Aidan, Wednesday, 5 May 2021 10:38:03 AM
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Thanks Aidan, for highlighting that David Attenborough is merely a pommy actor who fell into wildlife documentary narration, & has since grown into a silly old man, who takes himself far too seriously to be of any use to anyone.
Posted by Hasbeen, Wednesday, 5 May 2021 11:26:35 AM
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