Dear mhaze,

Well that is just irrational.

Besides which you are one of those who don't get to criticise Andrews at all because the truth is you would have let the virus rip like they did in Sweden without blinking an eye.

I wasn't criticising Andrews. He's a screw-up from way back and was always gunna muck this up in some way. That he managed to do it in such a monumentally bad way is the only surprise.

That he's the best the Victorian ALP has says alot about them. That the Libs aren't 20 points up in the polls says even more about them and the powers of a compliant press.

No, I was criticising the bozos who, for rank partisanship, fail to or, more probably, refuse to recognise how monumentally bad the Victoria numbers are.

As to Sweden, despite your continued assertions (ie claims devoid of facts) that I supported the Swedish approach that ain't so. Its just one of your traits that anyone who didn't heartily agree with your irrational hatred of the Swedish approach must have supported it.

Oh and BTW I never supported or suggested a "let 'er rip" approach. That's just your comprehension problems leading you down yet another garden path.

A quick couple of mhaze's Covid quotes for the amusement of others.

“But now we know that the threat of this virus to all, other than the very aged with pre-existing conditions, is minor. It’s likely that, had we known the full details as to the dangers of the virus back in February, our response would have been very different. Rather than broad isolation, targeted isolation of those most in danger would have been the go.”

“The economy, lives and savings are being ripped apart. What if it wasn’t necessary? What if this is really just a bad flu season where ‘experts’ panicked and then panicked government “

“Everyone is essentially guessing as to the mortality rate with 0.01% being the lower figure. But any number of analyses equate it the to influenza rate.”

That one was a doozy since it turns out the current mortality rate for the US is 178 times your figure.

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“Paul,

"This is a pandemic,....".

Why is this a pandemic and influenza isn't? Influenza, year in and year out, kills far more than this virus so far even allowing for the Chinese understatement of facts by at least an order of magnitude.

"has the potential to kill millions throughout the world. "

Well that's the point. It doesn't. Faulty early information suggested it might, but that's no longer the case.”

End quote.

Well it has killed far more than the flu and has thus far taken at least 3 million lives.

Time after time you have been utterly wrong. Virtually every little pronouncement you made about Covid had been blown out of the water by facts.

Why on earth should anyone take the slightest notice of you when you open your mouth on this subject?

Attacking Andrews like NewsCorp et al. have done is simply disingenuous when most of the deaths occurred in the federally managed private aged care sector, allowed to operate with watered down standards vs. the state sector aged care in Victoria.

Further, thanks to NewsCorp, 9Fairfax and others with ongoing criticism of Andrews, and implicitly Victorians, it seems more about frustration of almost two decades of Labor rule (interrupted briefly by a Lib govt. led by what's his name ...?) of what was formerly the Libs 'jewel in the crown'.

Again, not helped by Howard dragging the Liberals north to Sydney with Murdoch, latter encouraging others to dog whistle Melbourne/Victoria and Howard also having issues with Victoria describing it as the 'Massachusetts' of Oz.

Shows how little reflection there is when Howard, like Abbott, can lose what were previously safe Liberal seats while junking many moves for gender equity recommended by a Dame Beryl Beaurepaire review in '70s?

Even better, some comments in media reflect the dangers with recent sexual harassment and women issues of and for the Libs in Canberra, 'east suburban doctors' wives in Melbourne ready with their baseball bats'.

Oh look, SR wants to change the subject. Well who can blame him after the kicking he's had.

But SR you don't need to remind me how accurate I've been on this. I already know. But somehow you think you're showing errors.

The WuFlu has been just another flu. In Australia in 2019 its estimated that the flu took out about 4000 people, even after massive vaccinations. The WuFlu took out less than a quarter of that even before vaccines were available.

My points about the WuFlu mainly targeting the old is proven accurate. The median age at death has been 86. (I know when I say 'median' it will confuse SR, but its a bit like average, if you understand that concept.)

When I said, way back in April 2020 that targeted isolation of the vulnerable was what was required, that has proven to be true. Indeed its now being shown in study after study that that is the way the virus should have been handled.

And so on. Its all very gratifying that SR wants to highlight my accuracy and foresight, but its wont to go to my head.

Oh one last piece of hilarity. SR writes "That one was a doozy since it turns out the current mortality rate for the US is 178 times your figure.". Well if that were true then over 6 millions USians would be dead from the virus. It looks like SR has misunderstood case fatality rates and mortality rates AGAIN. The last time he did that and I pointed it out he promptly not only left the thread but exited the site for a week or three. Let's see what happens this time.

Dear mhaze,

You dribble: “Oh look, SR wants to change the subject. Well who can blame him after the kicking he's had.”

Lol.

Well that is a classic piece of self projection from you.

As to this:

“The last time he did that and I pointed it out he promptly not only left the thread but exited the site for a week or three. Let's see what happens this time.”

Well that's a riot because you were totally toweled over that discussion.

However I will admit to getting a decimal place wrong in my last post. It should have been 17 times or 17.8 not 178 the mortality rate.