"Focused Protection"

"Meanwhile the GB Declaration was simply pseudo science supported by Koch linked organisations preferring the 'letting it rip' libertarian strategy and hoping for 'herd immunity'"

Far from a let it rip strategy, the declaration calls for a "focused protection" approach - perhaps reading the actual declaration rather than the propaganda would be a good idea.

It certainly aims for herd immunity but then again so does the vaccine programme. In the end herd immunity is the only solution to unending lockdowns. The only issue is how to achieve herd immunity - exposure or vaccine.

Focused protection seeks to sequester those most at risk such as the elderly and the already immune challenged while allowing the rest of the community to continue with their lives. The vast majority of the population would get the virus and suffer no or minor symptoms while developing immunity.

It was clear a month or two after the virus hit that the virus held little risk for most people under 65. Had that knowledge been relied on the lockdowns would never have been instituted.

"SR will rue the day he sided with the hunchback of Spring Street in oppressing Victoria"

SR never rues anything. He argues his point until even he understands he's wrong, then proceeds to forget that he ever raised it.

Anyone who was going to rue supporting Chairman Dan's failed approach would have done so by now given how the numbers prove beyond doubt to even the most innumerate that the Victorian leadership botched things badly.

Dear Valley Guy,

I think it was the leadership of the states which got us over the line. Morrison was spouting in June that we were going to have to live with the virus and wanted the borders opened up ASAP. Thankfully the states told him to take a hike. Now he is over in the West telling their premier what a great job he had done helping to keep the economy going. The think is it was done off the back of iron ore prices which exploded because of Covid rampaging through the Brazilian iron ore sector. Our could have been decimated too but wasn't because of state leadership.

Dear mhaze,

Vaguely inumerate? That got a laugh. You have been so exposed as having such a rudimentary understanding of figures by me and others you rarely quote them now. Your infamous predictions for Covid are now OLO legends.

As to Victoria they employed stringent lockdowns precisely in response to a Covid outbreak which got out of control. Could they have done things better? Sure. But they got the job done and most Victorians are grateful to them for doing so. For you to be painting those measures as something that caused the outbreak is completely disingenuous but rather typical from you.

You should indeed be judged on your woeful predictions including the Covid was just a bad flu and hat Sweden was the exemplar of the Scandinavian countries. All scatter line bowling pins.

Mate, and any chuffness on your behalf speaks to your delusions, nothing else.

SR shows total consistency:

Sweden - they totally screwed up - just look at the numbers
USA - Trump totally screwed up - just look at the numbers
UK - Boris totally screwed up - just look at the numbers
Victoria - what have the numbers got to do with it?

Dear mhaze,

I know numbers scare you but here are some approxiate figures to chew on.

If Victoria had followed Sweden's rates we would be looking at 10 times the amount of Covid deaths. If Sweden had followed Australia's rates as a nation they would have seen around 1200 deaths rather than the 13,800 and growing figure.

Pretty simple math old boy.

No matter how hard you huff and puff these are always going to shoot you down. Your posterchild Sweden got ravaged by Covid and yet you are still singing its praises. Once again mate your twisted politics have shown you up. Time to give it a rest.

"Pretty simple math old boy."

Well Maths is always simple when you just conjure numbers out of mid-air. Applying rates isn't the basis of any form of reality. The policies matter. Its just as invalid as saying that if Victoria had followed the rates of The Vatican they'd have had 900 less deaths. That's not the point.

The fact is that Victoria had 9 times more deaths than the rest of Australia combined and if that isn't enough to make anyone who supported Chairman Dan embarrassed then I don't know what is.