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What do popular votes mean in the USA? : Comments

By Don Aitkin, published 5/3/2021

No one in American history has won more votes than Donald Trump did last November, save for Joe Biden, who won over 81 million popular votes.

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Oh no Don!

OLO's Trumpets, for a blissful month have been a tad quiet.

This will draw them out from their wabbit holes.
Posted by plantagenet, Friday, 5 March 2021 9:44:34 AM
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Struth this comment keeps being trotted out and it is just inane.

“No one in American history has won more votes than Donald Trump did last November, save for Joe Biden,”

The population of the US increases each bloody election. What should be measured is what percentage of the population the vote represents.

Trumps vote was 22.5%. You just have to go back to Regan to see higher. He got 23.1%.

Biden on the other hand was a clear standout reaching the highest percentage of the population of any candidate ever.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_turnout_in_United_States_presidential_elections#/media/File:US_Vote_for_President_as_Share_of_Population.png
Posted by SteeleRedux, Friday, 5 March 2021 12:52:47 PM
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More interesting than Don's insights on US politics

is Don's insights into young, climate concerned, swinging voters in Australia.

With Craig Kelly moving to the crossbench I think I'm right in saying the Morrison Coalition only clings to Power by its wafer-thin 1 seat majority in the House of Reps.

Meaning:

1. another Coalition member moving to the crossbench could mean a change of Government to Labor

2. a Byelection, could by deadly for the Morrison Coalition if such a Byelection goes Labor's way

OR

3. a Coalition member moving to Labor would automatically trigger a Labor Government.

SENATOR Reynolds standing down is less serious as that doesn't directly effect the one seat House majority.

BUT if Porter MP retires early triggering a Byelection that could be dangerous territory for the Morrison Coalition. This is even if Porter's seat appears safely Liberal http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Division_of_Pearce#Election_results

Poor ScoMo must be sh!ting bricks.
Posted by plantagenet, Friday, 5 March 2021 3:03:34 PM
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Aitkin wrote: "not because I think there was anything suss in the outcome, though there might have been (see Time magazine's expose here)"

I've mentioned the Time article several times on these pages but to no avail. I'm not sure if its because its long and complex and therefore beyond the scope of most here, or because it tells a story that most would prefer to not be true and/or not know about.

So quite apart from evidence of fake absentee ballots and clandestine ballot drops away from prying eyes, the revelations of those in the Time article shows a conspiracy to rig the election. Add that the media/big tech conspiracy to suppress harmful facts and its clear the election was the opposite of free and fair. Had all this happened in some South American nation, the US would be calling the election tainted and imposing sanctions left, right and centre.

So the take from that is that although Biden had 81 millions added to his tally, we'll never know how many votes he actually got.

The Democrats (now there's a misnomer) are now trying to formalise the rule subversions that allowed all this to happen so that it can happen each election. That's why I opined a while back that Trump may become known as the last democratically elected president of a once great democracy.
Posted by mhaze, Friday, 5 March 2021 3:17:16 PM
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As to Aitkin's main point, being the potential rise of a third force, that is much more likely in the US than here.

Trump represented a rejection of the leadership of the Republican Party. Nonetheless, despite rejecting the policies of that party, he was able to rise to become its leader by appealing to the base over the heads of the leaders. So the pro-blue collar, America First policies that Trump espoused and that carried him to the White House, were anathema to the Republican leadership but beloved (and still beloved) by the base. The upshot is that, in the US, the third force has already taken over the Republican party and the older leadership of the Bushes, McConnell, Ryan and Cheney is in retreat. They are now the third force.

That can't happen in Australia. Its impossible for an outsider to come in an take over a party as Trump did. The closest example we have is Hawke, but he was of the party and still had to wait his turn having moved on the leadership. Additionally his positions weren't really all that radical, at least not when he first took over.

For someone, irrespective of how charismatic or well-known/well-liked, it would still require years to achieve change. They'd have to get preselection, then election, then do time on the back-bench, then stab a few backs. By which time they'd be thoroughly tainted by the process.

Because of our electoral system, the chances of a third party gaining traction is low. There's been plenty of attempts - Chipp's Democrats, the Greens, the 'browns', Katter, LDP, etc. None gets traction past 15-20% at best.

The next decade or so is going to be bad, very bad for Australia. Only at the end of that will people be so open to a radical agenda that they'll be prepared to move in large numbers from one or other of the major parties.
Posted by mhaze, Friday, 5 March 2021 3:35:51 PM
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The Yanks are making a huge mistake aping the Australian Left's mentality !
Posted by individual, Friday, 5 March 2021 6:57:31 PM
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Dear mhaze,

You claim "the revelations of those in the Time article shows a conspiracy to rig the election".

It does no such thing. Instead it shows a determination to save the electoral process from the voting suppression and underhanded framing of unsubstantiated irregularities by a flog called Trump.

Mate, you really need to get off the Koolaid.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Friday, 5 March 2021 7:48:49 PM
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Did you read the article SR or just, as usual, run off to find someone to tell you what you wanted to hear about the article.

Direct quote from the article....

"There was a conspiracy unfolding behind the scenes, one that both curtailed the protests and coordinated the resistance from CEOs."

Plenty of others as well. You should read it some time.
Posted by mhaze, Saturday, 6 March 2021 8:14:29 AM
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McHazy. I agree with SR.

Conspiracies?!

Yes some loud jerk did actively conspire to incite a mob to storm America's Capitol/Parliament building.

Trump Vote Count being now a gone issue: only dredged up by a diminishing number of Trump occultists.
Posted by plantagenet, Saturday, 6 March 2021 8:49:48 AM
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Spot on Don, spot on!

And no one in American history has won more votes than Donald Trump did last November but lost the election, save for Joe Biden, who won over 81 million popular votes and won the election.

WAIT A MINUTE! WAIT A MINUTE! STOP THE PRESS! SOMETHING DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.

There's something really stupid about this topic.

Are YOU smart enough to work out what it is?
Posted by Mr Opinion, Saturday, 6 March 2021 9:40:19 AM
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Good old Uncle Donald. Forever in the news; that’s the idea.

Dan
Posted by diver dan, Saturday, 6 March 2021 11:14:18 AM
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Dear diver dan,

Indeed. It will take the cult members a long time to let go.

Dear mhaze,

Only the most jaundiced, conspiratorial fruit loop would read that article and decide it was proof of widespread voter fraud.

It was directly about looking after America's democratic institutions which Trump had repeatedly attacked culminating in the soft coup attempt at Capitol hill.

“The handshake between business and labor was just one component of a vast, cross-partisan campaign to protect the election–an extraordinary shadow effort dedicated not to winning the vote but to ensuring it would be free and fair, credible and uncorrupted.”
http://time.com/5936036/secret-2020-election-campaign/

These people should be applauded including the US Chamber of Commerce for their belief in democracy and for their willingness to stand up for it.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Saturday, 6 March 2021 12:41:44 PM
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Button thy lip SteeleRedux

mhaze, bless 'im, may be an endangered species of diminishing cranial accuity,

a few french fries short of a Happy Meal.

But mhaze is not what you call a "fruit loop."

McHazy be a Loop Loop,

on crack.
Posted by plantagenet, Saturday, 6 March 2021 1:23:43 PM
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SR,

"Only the most jaundiced, conspiratorial fruit loop would read that article and decide it was proof of widespread voter fraud."

Agreed. Which is why I didn't say anything like that. What I said was that the article forms part of a series of evidence that all sorts of things where done that probably illegitimately increased Xiden's vote.

But, and I've said this earlier in other threads, we'll never get 'proof'. What evidence that might have been found has long since been destroyed. People looking at Georgian pro-Biden ballots that appeared to be suspect made the mistake of passing that on to others. The FBI turned up, took control of the ballots and then shredded the lot. Whatever software in the Dominion machines that might have moved ballots to Biden has long since been erased. Pennsylvania (?) destroyed the absentee vote envelopes that were need to certify those votes. Others separated the vote slips from the envelopes so that checking who benefited from invalid ballots was impossible.

As an example of what occurred, in Georgia, despite the number of absentee votes increasing almost 600%, the number of votes rejected fell. This was caused by invalid rule changes that allowed previously invalid votes to go through. Some will say that the votes were valid. Others will say its clear that vote harvesting was used to lodge votes that didn't carry the correct information such as a signature that matched that in the electoral records.

What the Times article shows is that there was a monumental effort among the power centres in the US to swing the election to Biden (more accurately away from Trump). Trump represented and still represents an existential threat to the power of the so-called elites and they did all in their power to save their wealth and power. That included things like invalidly changing rules, suppressing inconvenient facts and using the power of the legacy media and big tech to hide and sanitise these efforts.

/cont
Posted by mhaze, Saturday, 6 March 2021 4:16:01 PM
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/cont
They themselves call it a conspiracy. Indeed they revel in the description. While they claim that they were trying to protect the nation by ensuring the defeat of Trump, in reality they were helping change the rules to hide the efforts of others to tip the scales. How much tipping, we'll never know.

But a large percentage of USians believe it was substantial and therefore have no faith in the new administration. Indeed it seems that the new administration has little faith that it carries the nation with it as it tries to cement the invalid rules changes into law to ensure continued electoral wins.

I've never said there was proof or that proof would ever be forthcoming. But my view and that of millions of USians is that, on the balance of probabilities and taking all evidence into account, Biden's win was illegitimate.

Your problem is the usual SR error of thinking black/white ie if I don't agree the election didn't suffer "widespread voter fraud" then I must think there's proof it did. But there's a lot of grey here. I accept proof isn't coming but I think, viewing all the evidence that the election was invalid.

Still, at least you were thinking, which puts you miles ahead of poor old Plantagenet.
Posted by mhaze, Saturday, 6 March 2021 4:16:06 PM
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Dear mhaze,

The rabbit is late for your tea party mate.

You whisper: “People looking at Georgian pro-Biden ballots that appeared to be suspect made the mistake of passing that on to others. The FBI turned up, took control of the ballots and then shredded the lot.”

Were these the ones?

http://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/jan/06/facebook-posts/no-there-were-no-shredded-ballots-found-during-geo/?fbclid=IwAR1-oatYv_vB0czBD48BopHx-dA7VWoMqjbM5g1NCWNbVltt7A_r3FgbetM

http://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-images-georgia-shredded-bal-idUSKBN29C2K6

All utter bunkum of course.

So its this: “Georgia, despite the number of absentee votes increasing almost 600%, the number of votes rejected fell.”

Here are the facts:

“(ATLANTA)- The number of absentee ballot rejections for signature issues increased approximately 350% in the November 2020 election in Georgia from the 2018 election, about the same rate of increase as the total number of absentee ballots accepted. The rejection rate for absentee ballots with missing or non-matching signatures in the 2020 General Election was 0.15%, the same rejection rate for signature issues as the 2018 General Election.
2,011 absentee ballots were rejected in the November 2020 election for missing or non-matching signatures out of 1,322,529 absentee ballots cast. In November 2018, 454 absentee ballots were rejected for missing or non-matching signatures out of 284,393 absentee ballots cast. The 0.15% rejection rate for signature issues was the same in both the 2018 and 2020 General Elections.”
http://sos.ga.gov/index.php/elections/number_of_absentee_ballots_rejected_for_signature_issues_in_the_2020_election_increased_350_from_2018

“They” don't revel in the description of conspiracy at all. A single Times author used it as a bit of click bait, that is it.

There was not “a monumental effort among the power centres in the US to swing the election to Biden (more accurately away from Trump)”. It was an effort to enfranchise as many Americans as practicable and work against efforts, almost solely by the Republicans, at deep and widespread voter suppression.

Look I know you are taking this hard and are likely still in deep mourning but mate your president lost, he is gone, finito, outta here. Live with it.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Saturday, 6 March 2021 4:54:15 PM
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Well said Steelo

Move over Alice. We've got McHazey in Trump Wonder

Land.
Posted by plantagenet, Saturday, 6 March 2021 7:01:05 PM
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This is more concerning:

Biden too Cognitively Impaired to Fulfill White House Duties
by Stephen Lendman
Impaired by dementia, Biden is cognitively unfit and unable to fulfill duties of the office he holds.
His condition will likely worsen to Alzheimer’s Disease, entirely incapacitating him cognitively.
Psychology explained dementia as follows:
It’s “a progressive loss of cognitive function, marked by memory problems, trouble communicating, impaired judgment, and confused thinking.”
“Dementia most often occurs around age 65 and older but is a more severe form of decline than normal aging.”
“People who develop dementia may lose the ability to regulate their emotions, especially anger, and their personalities may change.”
Up to 80% of cognitively impaired individuals with dementia develop Alzheimer’s Disease, about five million Americans affected.
Biden has been declining cognitively for some time. The condition steadily worsens over time.
He can’t perform his duties. Yet establishment media conceal his deteriorated state.
Rare exceptions like the Boston Herald prove the rule.
In mid-February, it headlined “Biden’s babbles continue,” saying:
He “seldom makes much sense when he speaks.”
On Valentine’s Day, he made a “semi-coherent remark,” saying:
“Valentine’s Day is a big. Jill’s favorite day. For real.”
Biden’s White House is “little more than an assisted-living facility (for the nation’s) doddering First Senior Citizen.”
Some of his recent mumbling and bumbling was as follows — read from a teleprompter or notes:
“From 400 million ordered to 600 million this is enough vaccine to fully vaccinate 300 Americans by end of summer, the beginning of fall.”
“But we wanna make look that’s I wanna me-peat it’ll be enough to fully vaccinate 300 Americans.”
Cont’d
Posted by Galen, Sunday, 7 March 2021 12:49:50 AM
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Cont’d
Quote
He called climate change a “sexessential threat to the planet.”
He identified war secretary Lloyd Austin as “senator Austin.”
He referred to sorties as “sortays.”
He said “Saudi Arabia has released a prominent human rights activist, Loujain al-Hathlou — loul — excuse me, l-o-u-l, uh, from prison.”
He vowed to “never, ever dishonest you.”
He said “(i)magine the incredible love it must have taken for the proud Tuskee-kee, Tus-kay-gee airmen.”
He claimed that he “work(s) with Congress to make far-reaching investments in research and development of transformendale and transformidible technologies.”
He said “(l)ike the previous (regime), we’ll start to properly manage unlike it we’ll start to properly manage lands and waterways.”
He mumbled and bumbled that “(o)ne uh congressman pointed out I I could uh I I ah uh I he used a very anyway colorful term to say wearing a mask I tell him to kiss my ear I’m not gonna wear a mask well guess what not very American.”
He said “(i)t’s hard, the hard-hit areas, like cancer alleys in Louisiana, cancer alleys in Louisiana.”
He doesn’t know or understand what’s in dozens of executive orders he signed.
He said “(u)h uh the second uh order I’m gonna be signing also changes what the president has done – pres, the president – what the former president uh has done and it’s uh a memorandum to reverse the my predecessor’s attacks on women’s health.”
After coughing, he added: “Excuse me, health access.”
He’s especially focused on when the next meal will arrive.
They’re all that nursing home and assisted living facility residents look forward to — except for visits when occur by family and/or friends if still able to recognize them.
During last year’s campaign, Biden said “China is going to eat our lunch?”

… Does any of the above sound like a coherent, effectively functioning head of state?
How long will the charade continue before Biden is replaced by president-in-waiting Harris?

UnQuote

Who needs election fraud when you have this going on?
Galen
Posted by Galen, Sunday, 7 March 2021 1:12:47 AM
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SR asks: "Were these the ones?"

Answer: No. I specifically said the FBI was involved. The stories you conjured up don't involve the FBI. QED.

SR write: "Here are the facts:"

I was comparing presidential elections to presidential elections - ie 2016 to 2020. Comparing 2018 to 2020 is irrelevant.

BTW, I used Georgia as an example. Check other states also.

SR opined: "Look I know you are taking this hard and are likely still in deep mourning but mate your president lost, he is gone, finito, outta here. Live with it."

The trouble is that people like SR and plannie treat this like a footy grand final. Their team won - hurrah. But its not footy - its a threat to western civilisation.
I'm not in mourning for the loss of democratic principles but I am trying to understand what's going on and the ramifications for me and mine.

"The central fact to appreciate about Donald Trump is that he was elected without the permission, and over the incredulous objections, of the woke oligarchy that governs us." Roger Kimball

The ruling elite in the US is seeking to implement a one-party state to ensure that the 'deplorables' never again rise to power. Its important to understand what's going on here.

Over the centuries, we've seen people and groups sit idly by as one form or another of authoritarianism is implemented, cheering it on because it was their 'side' that was winning. What such people never realise and never learn is that ultimately their 'side' will also come for them.

What I also find mildly amusing is that people like SR and plannie, who fell lock stock and barrel for the Russian collusion story, a story that had zero evidence to support it, now assert that anyone who gives credence to ample evidence of fraud in this election is deluded. The delusion was falling for the deep states attempt to overturn the 2016 election and that delusion is compounded by the failure to recognise the clear signs of electoral malfeasance in 2020
Posted by mhaze, Sunday, 7 March 2021 8:44:17 AM
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SR probably thinks that Lee Harvey Oswald assassinated President Kennedy, too.
Posted by LEGO, Sunday, 7 March 2021 7:31:23 PM
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Dear mhaze,

You write: “I specifically said the FBI was involved. The stories you conjured up don't involve the FBI.”

The fact that you haven't provided a link twice now usually means it's dodgy.

No the 2018 election is not irrelevant at all. It shows an evolving uptake and familiarisation around absentee voting. The fact that there was widespread advice that during a COVID year not to attend polling booths if possible explains the significant jump.

Why are you intent on making this something it isn't.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Sunday, 7 March 2021 7:41:26 PM
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Yes Galen, poor old Joe's cognitive skills, such as they were, are unravelling at a pace. But this was clear to anyone who looked beyond the headlines back to at least the beginning of 2020.

It was part of the conspiracy to oust Trump that the obvious problems with Biden were papered over and/or hidden by the combined efforts of the legacy media and big Tech. It is now clear that Biden is a mere figure head and that others behind the scenes, including wife Jill, are the real power.

They are going to try to keep the charade going until 2022 when Harris will be installed after Biden retires of is removed via the 25th amendment. Its already reported that Harris is taking on many of Joe's nominal duties and that overseas leaders are ringing her rather than the nominal president. Of course Harris is really just a figure-head for the Obama wing of the Democrats.

Linked to this is the destruction of Andrew Cuomo. He was the only candidate that stood a chance to upset this little arrangement and take the Democrat Party leadership away from the powers behind the throne. So now he is being nuked. Everything that the media is now revealing about Cuomo has been known for a year - the deliberate endangerment of the elderly, the sexual harassment, the graft. But it was all suppressed by the deep state in the effort to remove Trumpism. Now that that has been achieved, Cuomo is surplus to needs and therefore is being driven out of public life, much as they tried to do with Trump.

Its how one-party states work.
Posted by mhaze, Monday, 8 March 2021 7:13:13 AM
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Crazy mhaze

Wish I had Biden's cognitive skills. He was voted in fairly and he's the most powerful man on Earth.

You're not.
Posted by plantagenet, Monday, 8 March 2021 7:53:28 AM
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Headline 'popular' votes, backgrounded by increasingly ageing (permanent) population (motivated to vote not restricted informally), like opinion polls, often do not reflect regional and/or electorate differences.

Further, the deeper issue in the self important Anglosphere of the US, UK and Australia is that electors or citizens are not well informed due to hollowed and consolidated media, with media promoting white Christian nationalist agitprop and radical right libertarian socio-economic theory and policies; NewsCorp or 9Fairfax, IPA, CIS, ASPI etc. anyone?

So much for freedom of ideas let alone original ideas and innovation up against a wall of often conservative cliches i.e. pig headed pale male and patriarchal nativist Christian conservatism..... while Australia slides further on economic diversity and importance as an independent nation....
Posted by Andras Smith, Monday, 8 March 2021 9:42:09 PM
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Galen: Biden has suffered from and struggled with a speech stutter from childhood.

How good are Australians playing god on US elections and deeming whether candidates are fit for office or not while averting their gaze from the behaviour of their 'god' Trump, the GOP, think tanks and media in support.

You are promoting just another conspiracy theory.....
Posted by Andras Smith, Monday, 8 March 2021 9:47:32 PM
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Andras,

I don’t like Trump, I am not left or right, or a GOP supporter. How can I support the GOP, I am an Australian and don’t support any political faction/party in the US or political parties here. I like to assess policies and recent performance before I decide whom to vote for, so please apologise for shooting the messenger and not responding vis the message.

“Conspiracy theory”. Where did you get that rubbish from? All I did was post another writers observations and documented information.

You obviously can’t comprehend and don’t understand the difference between my own arguments or opinion (which, in this case where non existent in my two posts) and the intent for someone to consider the claims of another and thereby respond to the claims they raise.

You require additional education if you want any credibility, perhaps it’s too late for that to occur.
Galen
Posted by Galen, Tuesday, 9 March 2021 12:33:42 AM
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Planta, you posted ‘Crazy mhaze Wish I had Biden's cognitive skills. He was voted in fairly and he's the most powerful man on Earth. You're not.’

I admire your self belief Biden is the most powerful man on earth. If I tried hard enough I am sure I could name at least 100 people more likely to hold that position in reality. I won’t of course, because I know how you like to play your little games in this forum.

Basically, you rarely responded to people politely and your post above just further cements evidence of your rudeness and childishness to others posting here on OLO.

There’s still time to grow up.
Galen
Posted by Galen, Tuesday, 9 March 2021 12:48:44 AM
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And many of the Republican governors are continuing full bore on voter suppression.

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/politics/2021/03/08/iowa-governor-kim-reynolds-signs-law-shortening-early-voting-closing-polls-earlier-election-day/6869317002/
Posted by SteeleRedux, Wednesday, 10 March 2021 9:53:33 AM
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Galen: The public record via credible media clearly states that Biden has suffered from a stutter about which he has spoken of, how is that a conspiracy theory?

The earth is flat too...?

Unfortunately conservative politics has been taken over and influence from the US by those who promote white nationalism, crazy forms of Christianity and conspiracy theories. This makes Australian enthusiasts appear more interested in looking up to foreign US culture vs. local, and not realising how stupid they look.....
Posted by Andras Smith, Wednesday, 10 March 2021 10:32:31 PM
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Andras, you are obviously confused and don’t understand a word of what I wrote. It s pretty pointless responding when you can’t even comprehend what I said in my previous post.

Respond effectively and address the facts I stated or admit you don’t understand. That would be the polite thing to do.
Galen
Posted by Galen, Thursday, 11 March 2021 1:16:34 AM
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Respond to what? A list of conspiracy theories round Biden without any substantive support or source? (No doubt because no credible source exists outside the alt right, GOP etc.).

https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/america-votes/the-president-s-speech-joe-biden-s-stutter-presents-challenges-opportunities-1.5274382

Why would anyone respond to your sentiments or beliefs (masquerading as expertise or knowledge), your rudeness and shooting the messenger, but still not addressing the content of the message; bit like avoiding climate science....
Posted by Andras Smith, Thursday, 11 March 2021 3:36:27 AM
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Andras, wow now you have really shown yourself.

A rant of no substance, again.

If you read my initial post re Biden, it had this little gem in it...” Rare exceptions like the Boston Herald prove the rule.”. There is the original source, you obviously can’t read...fail.

You then bring up climate change, for what reason I have no idea. You need to take a Bex and lie down, I have obviously hit a nerve with you. Ad hominem attacks don’t help, but when I have to stoop to your level of stupidity, well them’s the breaks.

In all another epic fail, please respond to the material I posted, if you can’t, please don’t bother with another rant, they are becoming boring.
Galen
Posted by Galen, Thursday, 11 March 2021 11:47:43 AM
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Andras, good, no response, as expected.

In future when you post on OLO I will link this Forum comments to OLO posters so they can see you have no credibility. Don’t attack the messenger, it just makes you sound unethical and morally corrupt.
Galen
Posted by Galen, Friday, 12 March 2021 12:29:25 AM
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Dear Galen,

Get off your high horse mate.

You quote from an opinion author who has a virtually pathological bend against senior Democrat figures (this is what he calls Bernie Sanders “Sanders is a human equivalent of an undemocratic Dem Trojan horse, a con man throughout his political career as Burlington, VT mayor, House and Senate member.” and surprise surprise you get called out on it.

This site is a rough and tumble exchange of opinions. You have in no way been treated unduly harshly or unfairly by Andras.

Instead you come off as a snowflake with all your whinging.

Biden survived a long series of primary debates then presidential debates all done without cue cards or teleprompter. I suspect his cogitative abilities outweigh the both of us.

Deal with it.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Friday, 12 March 2021 2:41:02 PM
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BIDEN STUMBLES 3 TIMES UP STEPS TO AIR FORCE ONE

Watch Joe fall http://youtu.be/_8mz-21bDJg

Yahoo 4 hours ago reports http://news.yahoo.com/biden-falls-walking-steps-air-162736824.html

"Biden appeared to fall while climbing the stairs to board Air Force One for a trip to Atlanta, Georgia, on [Saturday Aus Eastern time].

Video appears to show the 78-year-old president tripping up the stairs three times, falling down on his hands and knees the final time. Biden quickly recovered, continuing to the top of the stairs before turning around for a salute.

...White House Communications Director Kate Bedingfield said that Biden was not injured in the fall and was prepared to continue with his trip.

Former president Trump and his allies focused heavily on Biden’s age and alleged infirmity during the 2020 campaign, often highlighting the moments where Biden appeared to lose his train of thought while speaking publicly.

Biden became the oldest president to take the oath of office when he was sworn-in in January, but he has argued that his age and decades of experience in the Senate would give him an advantage in the presidency."
Posted by plantagenet, Saturday, 20 March 2021 7:18:31 AM
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