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By Murray Hunter, published 1/12/2020Policymakers persist in US-centric orientation to their detriment
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Posted by Yuyutsu, Friday, 4 December 2020 11:09:19 AM
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Here is a twist;
As a result of China's landing on the moon the Chinese spokesmen are making noises about Tianixia the idea that all under heaven owes tribute to the Emperor. Gordon Chang, the writer suggests they are laying the groundwork to claim the moon. They got away with Tibet, the South China Sea and the Philippine's Islands so why not the moon ? Posted by Bazz, Friday, 4 December 2020 3:50:41 PM
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Bazz,
You're starting to think like Mr Opinion. Posted by Mr Opinion, Friday, 4 December 2020 4:16:43 PM
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The writing is on the wall:
http://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/china-hits-back-at-us-spy-chief-s-greatest-threat-to-freedom-claim/ar-BB1bCIgz?ocid=msedgntp But The Forum's pro-China camp (Foul-Mouth, Foxy, david f, et al) keep telling us that I'm just a racist troll for singling the Chinese out as a threat. Maybe we can send Foul-Mouth to China to get a letter from Xi promising peace in our time. Posted by Mr Opinion, Saturday, 5 December 2020 10:17:10 AM
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To Yuyutsu.
The internment of Japanese/Americans came about when one of the Japanese pilots who attacked Pearl Harbour was shot down and he crash landed his Zero fighter on a remote Hawaiin island. A Japanese/American couple gave him sanctuary and when one of the Islanders tried to contact the US authorities, the Japanese/American shot him dead. It is reasonable to presume that most people of a particular ethnicity are loyal to their own people and culture. The Japanese intended to eventually invade Hawaii and they fuly expected the large japanese/American population to support their takeover. The same happened in Europe. Throughout Europe there were large concentrations of ethnic Germans and Hitler expected them to support Germany when their countries were invaded by the Germans. My research suggests that the ethnic Germans did just that. These became the rulers of Poland, Czechoslovakia, and Hungary while their sons joined the Wehrmacht. More sinister, they also became the executioners of the German 'action groups" who rounded up Jews and Gypsies and committed the mass executions. After WW2, East European countries realised how dangerous there German ethnic groups were in their own countries and they either executed German men, women nd children, or they expelled them from their countries and sent them back to Germany. There is a youtube video showing the execution of German men, women and children, by lining them up, laying them down, at a roadside and running over them with a truck. A bit of ethnic cleaning in time, saves nine. Posted by LEGO, Sunday, 6 December 2020 7:31:35 AM
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One more step towards war with China:
http://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/china-slams-australian-effort-to-develop-missile-as-potential-threat/ar-BB1bFEFq No one seems to be taking Mr Opinion's 10 point plan to placate the Chinese very seriously. Not even The Forum's pro-China camp is coming out in favour of it. Come on Foul-Mouth, Foxy, david f, et al lend a little support. It's all for a good cause. Posted by Mr Opinion, Sunday, 6 December 2020 5:40:10 PM
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«it has everything to do with why the enemy ethnic groups are and should be interned: Viz the Japanese internment camps in Australia during WW11.»
With such approach, Australia should have remained under full lockdown, nay nobody would even be allowed to leave their room within the same household while COVID exists.
We need a more reasonable, balanced approach and most importantly follow the Golden Rule: how would you like yourself and your family to be interned just because you happen to belong to some suspected group?
«Chinese in Australia simply cannot be trusted. They are a compromised group.»
Only a saint would not be compromised to one degree or another. We have seen "white" people compromised too by greed, even a white premier who sold his state to China. I even see myself compromised for not having checked well enough the label on that rope I bought. The temptation is big to buy cheaper Chinese produce or China-made items that are otherwise not available at all.
Just like in COVID, restrictions ought to be graduated and proportionate to the risk, so locking up all Chinese Australians would be too extreme and indeed detrimental because these people who are mostly good and productive Australian citizens (including doctors, nurses, contact-tracers and fire-fighters) would turn against Australia as a result of their incarceration.
Definitely, those of them who are still members of the CCP without a good excuse should be locked up and sent away.
For the others, it suffices to keep them away from sensitive jobs and information, and even then just as long as they still have relatives and/or assets in China.
«reality has it that Nations exist with border restrictions for good reasons. The main one being security and wellbeing of the home group.»
The security and wellbeing of the people who live in a given area/country, undoubtedly important, can also be achieved without identifying them as a "nation".
«you need urgently to decide whose side of the war with China you are on.»
I am on the side of Truth, Righteousness, God and all good people.