Communists and Socialists and Universalists are nature denialists and nurture-o-philes- I don't want them touching and interfering with me- slick piles of writhing "sea-lions" and "poisonous snakes"- despite the occasional issue I trust my family and culture as everyone should perhaps be able to do. Despite Socialist and Communist claims to the contrary their model is also hierarchical- infinitely more so- trapping many in intrenched poverty. This is the future of universalism.

Democracy despite it's faults is amongst others based on the basic idea that everyone has the opportunity to participate- and so the institutions are representative- sadly it's not as simple as that. When widely divergent peoples come together their is little chance of them coming to a consensus- what you get then is democratic despotism- a tyranny of the masses. To me rather than contrive some artifice to force the population to comply - as the left does through immigration policy- the right does the same with IR policy- to allow them to form their own communities ruled by themselves- but Lincoln preferred to go to war killing many in the process- good for him. At least he saw some truth before he died and tried to reverse some of the things he started.

Bob Whitacker said that he laughed when it was told to him that communism was a system of farmers, factory workers, and academics to rule them all