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We’ll need to pay a higher defence premium under Biden : Comments

By Graham Young, published 17/11/2020

In return for being one of the US's most reliable allies, Australia expects and hopes, that in the event of any serious threat to our borders, the US will come to our aid.

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Dan said;
I think Australia is in a vulnerable isolated position inside Asia.

Dan, throw away your Mercado's Projection of the World.
Even the lines of latitude in Southern Hemisphere are wrong spacing.
Asia is on the other side of the world from us.
Posted by Bazz, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 1:25:21 PM
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Bazz,

You just don't want to accept the fact that you are now Asian.

Sorry, but you cannot turn back the clock now.

I wonder if they will stamp our passports 'Australianese'.
Posted by Mr Opinion, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 1:29:40 PM
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Apparently Australia is physically moving away from the Asian continent every year.
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 1:50:40 PM
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The article and comments are based on the assumption that Biden will soon be US President. Remember it is the mainstream media that has declared he has won the election. Is trying to debunk evidence of significant effective vote rigging and what can and is being attempted to overturn what superficially seems the result. Also, Google, Twitter and Facebook have obviously been doing all they can get away with to hinder Trump and help Biden. Remember, state winners have not yet been officially declared and after recounts and legal challenges, some crucial ones it has been claimed Biden has won will probably go to Trump. Note Trump can apparently use considerable resources of the Dept of Justice to help himself. Any marginal type decisions made by the Supreme Court will most likely go his way considering the majority of judges were appointed by Republicans and also apparently long ago then Delaware Senator Joe Biden tried to destroy the career of the acting Chief Justice, Clarence Thomas.

Also, it seems using precedents from the 19th century, the Republican dominated Senate and House of Representatives can intervene to determine the winners in close state results. Seems to me most likely Trump will eventually win, the mainstream media will be made big fools of and there will probably be criminal charges against some fraudsters. If not,Trump is still President until 20th January and before then ,for an incoming Biden administration, I have seen claims he could "break all their toys" and leave political time bombs.
Posted by mox, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 3:23:48 PM
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Bazz I don't think it has anything to do with the cost of getting oil out of the ground. It has everything to do with the elites deciding we peasants have it too good, living in McMansions, with 2 & 4 cars to a family, overseas trips & homes full of "things".

A select committee of the UK parliament, [all parties] came up with the statement in their report that "access to private transport for the public is not compatible with reducing carbon emissions.

You don't have to be too bright to see that the Global Warming scam has nothing to do with CO2 emissions, & everything in reducing the standard of living of the population in general.

It is no accident that the "warmists" are now attacking the production of meat, or that they want to grow trees on perfectly good grazing land. Hell they now want to introduce eating insects for gods sake.

It was illuminating when recently some dumb academic was complaining in a blog, that he had to pay an hourly rate to get his car fixed, equal to his hourly rate. The obvious assumed entitlement of some bog ordinary academic tells the story behind the whole Global warming scam. He sits on his fattening ass in a tax payer funded university collecting his fat pay, when the mechanic has to pay all the costs of running an expensive workshop out of his rate.

The fact that blogs like this display so many useful idiots tells us they are winning. I wonder if we will wake up soon enough to squash these elites before they have us as defenseless as 12Th century surfs.
Posted by Hasbeen, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 3:28:27 PM
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As for defense, what a joke. It is not the last war we would be fighting, & there would not be time to build up defenses after the shooting started. No use putting blokes like me in a few jets, & telling us to go stop an invading fleet, hoping a few would get through & do some damage. Nor send out a few WW11 vintage subs.

If we are going to defend ourselves we need enough cruise missiles & ICBMs to overwhelm the defense capacity of an invading fleet, & annihilate them at a reasonable distance. That would cost not that much more than a bunch of fool toy diesel subs, but would be effective.

If our only likely invader landed, the only defense little Oz could use would be tactical battle field nuclear short range missiles. This would destroy a lot of country, & possibly population if in the south, but unless we took such measures we would be better off surrendering, rather than offering annoying token resistance. We could never out man our only attacker possible in the next few decades.

Would Ozzies particularly the bastard bunch today consider such a defense, highly unlikely.

Would the yanks come, & would it help if they did? Unlikely. Our island does not offer the strategic base as it did 70 years ago. In the much longer range warfare probable today we are not worth the cost.

Two can play the same game of course. If armed with sufficient ICBM we could so much damage to an attackers homeland, that we would not be worth the cost of taking. Thus it is only nuclear that could defend us. Conventionally armed we could offer only a minor pin prick, easily absorbed & swept aside.
Posted by Hasbeen, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 4:02:47 PM
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