Confucius was a great fan of calling things by their correct names. So am I. It is necessary to define what you are talking about. We still have armies, navies and air forces. They make up our military establishment. Defence is only one of the many functions of our military establishment. Our military not only defends. It also attacks, threatens, occupies, aids in disaster relief, trains, absorbs young people at loose ends and serves any other function assigned to it by the government. If the term defence were meaningful and all nations had only defence forces there would be no more wars as nobody would attack. Graham Young has accepted the deformation of language implicit in the term, defence. So I fault Graham Young’s article by its title.

We’ll need to pay a higher defence premium under Biden

Since Trump has increased the military budget and decreased the state department budget there is no reason to think the title of his article reflects reality. I wrote an article with which you disagreed recommending a disarmament conference. I did not recommend ridding ourselves of the military establishment but merely, in concert with other nations, making it less of a burden.

Aside from the failure to recognize reality implicit in the title Graham’s first sentence indicates he doesn’t realize the reality of Trump. His first sentence reads, “In return for being one of the US’s most reliable allies, Australia expects and hopes that in the event of any serious threat to our borders, the US will come to our aid.”

The Kurds were a reliable ally in the struggle against ISIS in Syria. Without consulting the Kurds Trump ordered the US forces out of the area at the borders of Turkey which the Kurds were holding. He apparently did that at the request of Erdogan, one of the populist tyrants like Orban, Putin and Kim that Trump holds dear.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/15/us/elections/ben-sasse-trump.html?action=click&module=RelatedLinks&pgtype=Article

Under Trump Australia could fare like the Kurds. Graham is apparently an admirer of Trump. I have given my view of the title and the first sentence of Graham’s article.

Genug.

Soot Morrison keeps playing the US off against China and we are supposed to believe that America will jump to our defence when China becomes militarily aggressive towards us.

In your dreams!

This week the Commonwealth formally agreed to incorporate Australia into the Asian Regional and Comprehensive Economic Partnership, which will obviously be controlled by China.

This is not the move of an Australia that wants to be totally aligned with American democratic, economic and strategic principles.

Next thing we'll see is Soot and the boys kowtowing it to China. Wouldn't even surprise me to see Soot crawl on his hands and heels to Xi and kiss his feet.

"He is also the first president since Jimmy Carter not to get involved in a foreign war."

This is a very big thing that the Lefties have not once given Trump any credit for.

Free trade. It is ludicrous that China is involved in the latest deal when they are knocking off more Australian goods from their import list by the day as part of their bullying.

Not available domestically. Just what are we self-sufficient in these days? For all the talk about rejuvenation of our manufacturing industry in the face of the China threat, nothing seems to be happening.

There's no denying that Biden will be bad for Australia; our own government's weak and naive repeating of how our association with the US will not change is also bad for Australia.

ttbn,

Do you know what is at the back of Soot's mind?

How to start getting millions of cashed up Chinese migrants back into the Australian economy. (Same goes for Berejiklian.)

Don't you want to see Soot humble himself on his hands and knees before Xi.

"Oh please Emperor Xi be nice to me. You can have all my Australianese taxpayers ..... take them, take them ...... you can have them all."

We'll have to disagree, on "election fraud", but plenty to agree with.

At the slightest provocation, MacroBusiness loves to republish the survey evidence, that Australians rightly prefer the Morrison stance on China.

It's one of three big issues that makes Albanese unelectable. The other two are his slavish support for Big Australia, and his hosannas to Net Zero and the Energy Superpower. Lifted straight from the Ross Garnaut bedtime story.

As far as China and trade, I think we should just grasp the nettle and
sell the cargoes that are hald at sea for what we can get for them.
We need to show the Chinese that while it was nuisance it does not
cripple us and we can absorb such losses.
The same with the wine industry, we can tell them we will do something
else with the land or conduct a sales program in Europe called
"Up You Xi !", I joke of course but you get the idea.
Face it, we can be totally self sufficient if we had to.
We could also ban the export of baby formula, that will get the
Chinese mums out on the street.
China needs to get that message.
We need to demonstrate our sovereignty.
Make sure they understand that we are not one of their Vassal states !

As far as the US is concerned I think Biden and his lefty offsiders
will be in for a surprise when the general US public gets wind of
what they really want to do with the US Government.

As for our defense we need to get all the design details of the nuclear
version of our new submarines so we can convert them to nuclear.
Just due to physics of oil search diesel will be a fragile supply
line in the world as the fracking companies go to the wall over the next ten years

#1/ I don't like or agree with trade deals that lock us into a dependency box!

#2/ ordering submarines that are already obsolete before they get here and just as we attempt to go carbon neutral is daft! To put it kindly!

We need to beef up self-reliance and our ability to manufacture more of what we need in our self-reliant self-defence!

Moreover, if anyone believes we can go carbon neutral without nuclear power, they're either dreaming or have put shallow self-interest ahead of the national interest! If the latter, little better then Benedict Arnold, in my view.

We need to buy off the shelf nuclear-armed nuclear-powered subs as part of a robust self-reliant self-defence! And some long-range diesel weasels plus 120 MM mortars!

The latter two able to be airlifted by chinook to the most remote regions and able to defend that with that and some air capacity/smart bombs.

This combination would likely allow us to use the known terrain/bush tucker to our advantage and make any intending attacker pay too high a price, far more in lives and treasure than what they might gain!

I commend the decision to arm ourselves with shore-based missiles and new high tech sub detection facilities!

We also need to crack on with domestic high tech manufacture and defence capability manufacture/service! If that then creates a couple of 100,000 new jobs and a million more in-service related industries? That will be no bad thing!

Lastly, we need to be an ally with some real teeth, if we expect reciprocity?
Alan B.

“Anyone who says there was no fraud this election is pushing a line. There is fraud every year in the USA (and probably in Australia as well too). The question is: Are the incidences of fraud provable, and widespread enough, that they could be shown to have potentially affected the outcome of the election?”

Given that the Democrats, aided and abetted by corrupt MSM reporting and Twitter censorship, went all out to oust Trump during his first term, it is utterly naïve to believe there was no fraud. Besides, many years have passed since the Democrats could be considered democratic.

I think Australia is in a vulnerable isolated position inside Asia.

All the song and dance routines directed towards Asia pretending we care for any integration with them, is seen by them for what it’s worth, and that is mealy-mouthing and sloganeering.

Australia doesn’t give a toss about Asia, and sees itself as superior. That position is historical.

So where we really stand with the US as a useful ally, should be seen in a similar context to the isolated US ally of Israel.
If we are not useful to the US in a meaningful way, then the alliance will be weak.

Since Biden is obviously compromised with China and Russia, ( of lesser importance, but still significant), then the going will be tough.

However, compromising ourselves with trade agreements which will be a one sided affair, is weak. All the messages I see coming from Canberra, are a suck-along to China, especially the inclusion of China in these trade deals.

Added to dodgy trade deals, is upping the anti on Chinese immigration from Hong Kong; it’s a move which fools nobody on either side; again obviously, it’s design purpose here is to prop up real estate prices with Chinese spare change.

Including cashed-up Chinese into positions of influence in Australia as high immigration from China does, belies an inability to see a political reality.

Dan

diver dan,

You are wrong.

We have just come through 40 years of an Asianization process during what I have called the Great Asianization Period (1980-2020) in Australian history and to cap it all off the Commonwealth formally agreed this week to incorporate Australia into the Asian Regional and Comprehensive Economic Partnership.

And Soot is right at this moment having an old fashioned Asian one-on-one with the Japanese PM in Tokyo. It'll be a great Australianese-Japanese talk-fest.

You're a full blood Asian now Dan so you better just get used to it.

It’s the true meaning of fallacy, believing the entire population are on-board with the arrogance of it.

Obviously the “Yes-men” meeting with Japanese PM Naikaku-sōri-daijin, are oblivious to Japanese cultural predisposition to disliking the world and anything in it that is not Japanese. No multicultural leanings there. Shame we didn’t follow the Japanese example here in Australia.

The wonder is, Asians are not falling over themselves imitating the worlds most successful multicultural society=Australia. How annoying @nd insulting that must be to the “Yes-men”.

Dan

Biden said he would cancel fracking and support fracking but it will
not matter what Biden says, he will have no say in it at all.
The tight oil & gas companies are having trouble with their financiers
due to their poor profitability.
Can it be a co-incidence that Royal Dutch Shell and BP both announced
within a matter of months that they are studying how to leave the oil
industry and a year or two later the major motor manufacturers start
talking about electric cars. Some no longer to make internal combustion cars ?
Now another couple of years later cities and countries are making
noises about banning petrol and diesel vehicles.

Do you think maybe it is all orchestrated ?
Do the oil companies see the ERoEI telling them what they have to do ?
I suspect it has nothing to do with global warming but the long warned
about the of rising cost of getting crude oil out of the ground.

Dan said;
I think Australia is in a vulnerable isolated position inside Asia.

Dan, throw away your Mercado's Projection of the World.
Even the lines of latitude in Southern Hemisphere are wrong spacing.
Asia is on the other side of the world from us.

Bazz,

You just don't want to accept the fact that you are now Asian.

Sorry, but you cannot turn back the clock now.

I wonder if they will stamp our passports 'Australianese'.

Apparently Australia is physically moving away from the Asian continent every year.

The article and comments are based on the assumption that Biden will soon be US President. Remember it is the mainstream media that has declared he has won the election. Is trying to debunk evidence of significant effective vote rigging and what can and is being attempted to overturn what superficially seems the result. Also, Google, Twitter and Facebook have obviously been doing all they can get away with to hinder Trump and help Biden. Remember, state winners have not yet been officially declared and after recounts and legal challenges, some crucial ones it has been claimed Biden has won will probably go to Trump. Note Trump can apparently use considerable resources of the Dept of Justice to help himself. Any marginal type decisions made by the Supreme Court will most likely go his way considering the majority of judges were appointed by Republicans and also apparently long ago then Delaware Senator Joe Biden tried to destroy the career of the acting Chief Justice, Clarence Thomas.

Also, it seems using precedents from the 19th century, the Republican dominated Senate and House of Representatives can intervene to determine the winners in close state results. Seems to me most likely Trump will eventually win, the mainstream media will be made big fools of and there will probably be criminal charges against some fraudsters. If not,Trump is still President until 20th January and before then ,for an incoming Biden administration, I have seen claims he could "break all their toys" and leave political time bombs.

Bazz I don't think it has anything to do with the cost of getting oil out of the ground. It has everything to do with the elites deciding we peasants have it too good, living in McMansions, with 2 & 4 cars to a family, overseas trips & homes full of "things".

A select committee of the UK parliament, [all parties] came up with the statement in their report that "access to private transport for the public is not compatible with reducing carbon emissions.

You don't have to be too bright to see that the Global Warming scam has nothing to do with CO2 emissions, & everything in reducing the standard of living of the population in general.

It is no accident that the "warmists" are now attacking the production of meat, or that they want to grow trees on perfectly good grazing land. Hell they now want to introduce eating insects for gods sake.

It was illuminating when recently some dumb academic was complaining in a blog, that he had to pay an hourly rate to get his car fixed, equal to his hourly rate. The obvious assumed entitlement of some bog ordinary academic tells the story behind the whole Global warming scam. He sits on his fattening ass in a tax payer funded university collecting his fat pay, when the mechanic has to pay all the costs of running an expensive workshop out of his rate.

The fact that blogs like this display so many useful idiots tells us they are winning. I wonder if we will wake up soon enough to squash these elites before they have us as defenseless as 12Th century surfs.

As for defense, what a joke. It is not the last war we would be fighting, & there would not be time to build up defenses after the shooting started. No use putting blokes like me in a few jets, & telling us to go stop an invading fleet, hoping a few would get through & do some damage. Nor send out a few WW11 vintage subs.

If we are going to defend ourselves we need enough cruise missiles & ICBMs to overwhelm the defense capacity of an invading fleet, & annihilate them at a reasonable distance. That would cost not that much more than a bunch of fool toy diesel subs, but would be effective.

If our only likely invader landed, the only defense little Oz could use would be tactical battle field nuclear short range missiles. This would destroy a lot of country, & possibly population if in the south, but unless we took such measures we would be better off surrendering, rather than offering annoying token resistance. We could never out man our only attacker possible in the next few decades.

Would Ozzies particularly the bastard bunch today consider such a defense, highly unlikely.

Would the yanks come, & would it help if they did? Unlikely. Our island does not offer the strategic base as it did 70 years ago. In the much longer range warfare probable today we are not worth the cost.

Two can play the same game of course. If armed with sufficient ICBM we could so much damage to an attackers homeland, that we would not be worth the cost of taking. Thus it is only nuclear that could defend us. Conventionally armed we could offer only a minor pin prick, easily absorbed & swept aside.

Dear GrahamY,

Mate that piece was so full of projection it makes my head spin.

Trump wanted allies to pay more but you say it will cost us more under Biden.

Trump and his team were utterly compromised by their relationships with Russia without even mentioning Trump's secret Chinese bank account.

Ivanka Trump's trademarks deals with China are now out in the open.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/2020/09/22/ivankas-trademark-requests-were-fast-tracked-in-china-after-trump-was-elected/?sh=5b6ea13e1d60

How on earth can you equate Hunter Biden's actions as in any way comparable?

Hunter Biden is not directly employed by the White House at any stage nor directly represented the US government.

That is only scratching the surface of your article. The biggest disappointment for me is you not being able to concede the Biden win. That is just nutty.

Trump is a venal corrupt man who will hopefully be fully investigated. The fact that you have gone into bat for him so strongly touting highly disputed assertions about his performance as President is worrying to say the least. Trumpism rules I suppose.

Hasbeen,

There's an interesting article in Quadrant Online of 5th November called, "Defending Australia with Lemons" that you might find interesting.

AN AUSTRALIAN NUCLEAR PROGRAM IS THE OBVIOUS CURE

1. Well said SteeleRedux

And while Trump puts the Election in doubt, based on No Evidence of vote rigging

Trump spends more hour playing GOLF than trying to coindinate America's response to the Covid Crisis.
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2. The author says "Time for Australia to boost its defence capacity...and renovating our defence force...self-insurance is a necessary and complementary strategy to paying a defence insurance premium to the USA."

without prescribing how.
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3. HOW

Fortunately Australia is buying the first diesel versions of the French Barracuda NUCLEAR submarine http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barracuda-class_submarine_(France)

The Australian public is Not Yet ready to OK Australia purchasing the French Barracuda Nuclear Propelled submarine but will be by 2030, by which time:

(A) the Chinese threat will create sufficient fear.

and

(B) Australia will have started building 4 diesel Barracudas (known as Attack class) from the early 2030s. There will be time to modify the first 4 to the original Barracuda NUCLEAR propelled baseline and could be armed with nuclear warhead cruise missiles.

(C) IfAustralia sticks with the French Nuclear path the next 4 subs could be nuclear armed ballistic missile (SLBM) firing submarines, known as SSBNs. Fortunately France already has new SSBNs on the drawing board, known as SNLE 3G, to be built in France from the 2030s.

From the early 2020s until stage (C) the US will decide that Australia switching such vast sums to a French alliance is disturbing for America's military industrial complex. The will be far more attentive and forthcoming with nuclear weapons for us - its Australian ally.

(D) If you want to get a "new idea" read an "old book". Prime Minister John Gorton's NUCLEAR DETERRENT

see http://www.smh.com.au/national/when-australia-had-a-bombshell-for-us-20080705-32ai.html

CORRECTION - LONGER VERSION

AN AUSTRALIAN NUCLEAR PROGRAM IS THE OBVIOUS CURE

1. Well said SteeleRedux

And while Trump puts the Election in doubt, based on No Evidence of vote rigging

Trump spends more hours playing GOLF than hours coindinating America's response to the Covid Crisis.
________________________

2. The author says "Time for Australia to boost its defence capacity...and renovating our defence force...self-insurance is a necessary and complementary strategy to paying a defence insurance premium to the USA."

without prescribing how.
_________________________

3. HOW

Fortunately Australia is buying the first diesel versions of the French Barracuda NUCLEAR PROPELLED submarine (SSN) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barracuda-class_submarine_(France)
Those French subs are relatively small, relatively cheap compared to larger, more expensive, US legally blocked US/UK nuclear subs.

The Australian public is Not Yet ready to OK Australia purchasing the French Barracuda Nuclear Propelled submarine but will be by 2030, by which time:

(A) the Chinese threat will create sufficient fear.

and

(B) Australia will have started building 4 diesel Barracudas (known as Attack class) from the early 2030s. There will be time to modify the first 4 to the original Barracuda NUCLEAR propelled baseline and could be armed with nuclear warhead cruise missiles.

(C) If Australia sticks with the French Nuclear path the next 4 subs could be nuclear armed ballistic missile (SLBM) firing submarines, known as SSBNs. Fortunately France already has new SSBNs on the drawing board, known as SNLE 3G, to be built in France from the 2030s.

Note that France has a track record of helping Israel build nuclear weapons http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shimon_Peres_Negev_Nuclear_Research_Center#Construction and the missiles http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jericho_(missile) to carry them. France then conducted Joint Nuclear Tests with Israel in the Sahara and Pacific.

From the early 2020s until stage (C) the US will decide that Australia switching such vast $ sums and a nuclear future to a French alliance is disturbing for America's military industrial complex.

The USA will be far more attentive and forthcoming with nuclear weapons for us - its Australian ally.

(D) If you want to get a "new idea" read an "old book". Prime Minister John Gorton's NUCLEAR DETERRENT

see http://www.smh.com.au/national/when-australia-had-a-bombshell-for-us-20080705-32ai.html

BiIDEN&CHINA
If you watched the news after the media declared Biden president&he visited China.
The CCP leader had bottles of champagne laid out to welcome him.The Leaders had the biggest smiles on their faces. China was thrilled to have their puppet Biden back. They have Biden bythe short& curlies because they would only have to go on the news tomorrow and, say yes, “Biden did take millions in bribe money from us,”and the Western media could no longer pass it off as notproven.

EKECTION RESULTS.
ON Election Day the results were not close at all, as the media kept saying.. PrTrump was winning in most states with big majorities.
He won Texas early, but the media didn’t call it.He was 600,000 votes ahead in Pensylvania,150,0000,10,000 etc ahead in other states.
The Republicans won big time all over the country,plus they acquired more seats in the house. It makes no sense that people would vote overwhelmingly Republican and not vote for Pres Trump. The Democrat states would not allow independent oversight of the counting in some areas. That is illegal in Australia.

DOMINION VOTE RIGGING COMPUTERS
They used the known vote election rigging—Dominion computers. Which were used to rig the elections in Venezuela. And in one instance where there was a genuine scrutiniser, it was noticed that the computer put 12,000 votes for Pres Trump over into Biden’s count.
When challenged they said “it’s just a glitch we can fix it”. So they did and it put the votes back over on PrTrump’s side. Obviously they also knew how to cause the glitch as well. Funny how the glitch favoured Biden.

DEMOCRAT STATE JUDGES change voting rules.
This is being challenged in court by PrTrump. Because under the constitution, only state legislature can change voting rules. The change in rules allowed them to count ballots that came in after Election Day as long as they had the 3rd stamped on them.Witness says her supervisor told her to backdate them. This allowed theDemocrats to know how many Trump had won by& put in the extra votes so it didn’t look too suspicious.

Hasbeen,
I agree with your defense assessment. It makes a dismal outlook.
The companies involved in fracking for oil are in real trouble with
the Wall St financiers. The cost of drilling further out from the
sweet spots is adding up. I do not see the six sisters just giving
up their business because of global warming.
They are a lot tougher than that.

As far as China is concerned there have been a few economic studies
that can see China in a real financial bind that no money printing
or bond selling/manipulation will overcome. The problem is as far as
I could understand is related to the available resources whether
internal or imported and their populations requirements.
They have already exhausted many of their internal sources and are
starting to see resistance from import suppliers.

Dear Bazz,

Weren't you the bloke who started a thread titled "Biden Will Stand Down" a little while ago? Perhaps parking your predictions for a period so people have a chance to forget might be an idea.

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Dear Graham,

.

I read your article in the Spectator yesterday and didn’t realise you were such a fan of Donald Trump. In fact, at first, I thought it couldn’t be the Graham Young I knew but probably a homonym. How surprised I was to see at the bottom of the article that it really was you, the Graham Young of Online Opinion.

That said, I can’t say I share your enthusiasm for Donald. I see the man as a disruptor who has served his purpose and is now outlasting his usefulness. He put the boot into the anthill and opened our eyes to a rather embarrassing reality that has also outlasted its justifiability.

It is not the responsibility of the USA to assure the freedom, independence, and economic prosperity of the rest of the world. It is the fundamental duty of each and every sovereign nation to look after its own citizens and assume its responsibilities. The good times are over.

Donald has proved his point and we all get the message. The rupture has been consummated – as the Kurds, the Chinese, the Obama Care recipients (who risk losing their health insurance benefits), and, no doubt, every other “loser” can testify.

We all now know where we stand (or should do) but the disruption has been brutal, conflictual and highly divisive. The very foundations of the world’s most powerful democratic nation have been severely shaken.

What is now needed, in my sense, is good, stable, consensual leadership, capable of correctly installing and consolidating the new world order through respectful negotiation, conciliation and reciprocity.

.

Well said Banjo.

Especially the last few paras, on what America now needs.

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Dear ttbn,

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You wrote :

« Apparently Australia is physically moving away from the Asian continent every year »
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My understanding, ttbn, is that exactly the opposite is occurring.

Geologists indicate that tectonic plate activity is causing Australia to drift north-east at a rate of 7cm per year towards Asia, “the same speed that our fingernails grow each year” (according to Curtin University Professor Zheng-Xiang Li) :

http://news.curtin.edu.au/stories/australias-due-to-collide-with-asia-whether-we-like-it-or-not/

In about 60 million years’ time, it is estimated that it will bump into the east coast of China and in about 100 million years’ time, it will be half gobbled-up by China. The other (southern half) will simply be part of China :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hos7w8xrcEs

So, I guess our far-distant future descendants will all be Chinese.

Something to keep in mind in our future planning. How's your Mandarin coming along ?

.

The wife of a friend gave birth to a girl. The friend's name was Loren King, and they named the baby, Nancy. Nan King, must be the Chinese influence.

david f,

Wouldn't her name be Nancy King?

I imagine she might use Nan King if she was trying to be racist. Is that what you are suggesting, that the child will grow up to be a racist?

Few are aware that the Democratic Party chose former Vice President Joe Biden, a candidate with little personality, as a way of appealing to moderates, thus avoiding the frightening personalities of Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders.

The MSM narrative held that ‘steady’ Biden ensconced in his basement office would stay the course. Thus, the ‘Biden option’, which would make America moderate again, was born. Biden would bring floods of government money to an America in crisis. He assured voters that he would control the socialist hotheads that have taken over his party, and promised to take things leftward but slowly. He would carefully deliberate before packing the court or doing anything radical. Biden would moderate everything.

In the event of a Biden presidency, one could speculate:

If the Democrats lose the Senate in the January runoff elections in Georgia, a weak and ageing Biden will have an excuse to resist the radical Democrats. Biden can then be Biden and not a leftist puppet.

On the other hand, if the Democrats win the runoff Senate elections, the radical left would then have a blank cheque to push through its legislative agenda, including: amnesty and citizenship for between 16 to 29 million illegal immigrants; the Green New Deal; a climate hysteria revolution that upends the American way of life; and packing the Supreme Court..

Many moderate voters do not realize that Biden chose one of the most radically leftist senators as his vice president. There is nothing moderate about Kamala Harris. She will always favour the most radical position.

The ‘Biden option’ carries the real possibility that the 78-year-old president, who has shown signs of mental weakness and confusion, might not reach the end of his term. Thus, the radical vice president could well take the place of the “moderate” president. A communistic leader will then rule America following the Democrats’ Marxist platform.

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Dear Raycom,

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You wrote :

« Few are aware that the Democratic Party chose former Vice President Joe Biden, a candidate with little personality, as a way of appealing to moderates … The ‘Biden option’ carries the real possibility that the 78-year-old president, who has shown signs of mental weakness and confusion, might not reach the end of his term »

That’s true, Raycom, but the only alternative was Donald Trump who was setting himself up for a second term as president, but this time, clearly as a dictator, having fired anyone who disagreed with him (which he continues to do) and replacing them with right-wing yes men.

The only choice the 153 million voters had was either “sleepy old Joe” or “Donald the dictator” (the pest or the cholera ?). The majority, 79.5 million (52%), chose “sleepy old Joe”.

“Sleepy old Joe” won by about 6 million votes, giving him 306 electoral college votes to “Donald the dictator’s” 232. “Sleepy old Joe” only needed 270 electoral college votes to win the election.

As you say, Raycom, “sleepy od Joe” has shown signs of mental weakness and confusion. That’s a bit worrying but “Donald the dictator” is notoriously known as a narcissistic megalomaniac and a pathological cheater and liar. It’s a toss-up as to which of the two is more worrying.

Like the majority of American voters, I’d put my money on “Donald the dictator”. In my books, he’d win that one hands down.

Happily, "Donald the dictator" has proved them right by declaring that the election was rigged and he won. If he had said the contrary we would have all had some very serious doubts.

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Thanks for the article Graham.

Neither Bernie Sanders nor Elizabeth Warren frighten me. I think they both have the potential to make the US a most just society. Trump could possibly have successfully red-baited them so they might not have done as well as Biden.

In selecting Harris as vice-president Biden has selected a person with the potential to make the US a more just and caring society. Radical and socialist are scare words which frighten people in supporting the economic inequity and the endemic racism which exist in US society today.

When wealth is concentrated in a small proportion of the population and police can gun down unarmed blacks with impunity moderation is not called for. Justice is called for.

Posted by david f, Monday, 23 November 2020 7:51:05 AM

Comment 1-

Neither Bernie Sanders nor Elizabeth Warren frighten me. I think they both have the potential to make the US a most just society. Trump could possibly have successfully red-baited them so they might not have done as well as Biden.

Answer 1- If they have red principles they are red.

Comment 2-

In selecting Harris as vice-president Biden has selected a person with the potential to make the US a more just and caring society. Radical and socialist are scare words which frighten people in supporting the economic inequity and the endemic racism which exist in US society today.

Answer 2-

Everyone's racist. Globalist Universalist principles don't work because blood is thicker than water- occasionally people from different cultures need to work together- but multiculturalism is a different paradigm. The US never got over the Civil War and are still fighting the same battles today. It's time that the sides had their own territory- as Israel was created to be a territory of Hebrew's. As PragerU's Candice Owens says the biggest issues in black society are 1. Missing fathers 2. Black on black murder 3. Male illiteracy. Miss Owens says- No other black society has done as well in any other part of the world than that of the US. She's happen to give a first class ticket to any black person that wants to renounce their US Citizenship and return to Africa.

Comment 3-

When wealth is concentrated in a small proportion of the population and police can gun down unarmed blacks with impunity moderation is not called for. Justice is called for.

Answer 3-

Wealth is always concentrated in a small proportion of the population - no matter the society- empathy between people is related to their similarity- otherwise instinctively a threat.

If you talk about justice to a lawyer they will laugh at you.

The system is pretty screwed- it can be made better- it was better in the past in a sense. Socialist universalist globalist principles aren't going to do it. Because socialists take away peoples power to protect themselves then claim it's for their own good- the socialist communist universalist globalist academics are the ultimate in snake oil traders- the people are then asked for their trust- of course the people don't- currently there are many fearful people in the world due to universalist do gooders.

At least Gandhi despite his faults actually talked with the people he wanted to influence. A common failing is to try and solve a problem before understanding it

Communists and Socialists and Universalists are nature denialists and nurture-o-philes- I don't want them touching and interfering with me- slick piles of writhing "sea-lions" and "poisonous snakes"- despite the occasional issue I trust my family and culture as everyone should perhaps be able to do. Despite Socialist and Communist claims to the contrary their model is also hierarchical- infinitely more so- trapping many in intrenched poverty. This is the future of universalism.

Democracy despite it's faults is amongst others based on the basic idea that everyone has the opportunity to participate- and so the institutions are representative- sadly it's not as simple as that. When widely divergent peoples come together their is little chance of them coming to a consensus- what you get then is democratic despotism- a tyranny of the masses. To me rather than contrive some artifice to force the population to comply - as the left does through immigration policy- the right does the same with IR policy- to allow them to form their own communities ruled by themselves- but Lincoln preferred to go to war killing many in the process- good for him. At least he saw some truth before he died and tried to reverse some of the things he started.

Bob Whitacker said that he laughed when it was told to him that communism was a system of farmers, factory workers, and academics to rule them all