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The US Republic, Trump and the authoritarian fear-mongering club : Comments

By Binoy Kampmark, published 5/11/2020

It's an oxymoron with a long history: American democracy. In referring to the United States, it does not exist.

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Yes, there is a lot of fear-mongering in the land of the"free". The brainwashed fear of socialism, delusional and self-harming. And in the brainwashed American group-mind, seen as hated communism. And as group think/belief, has allowed extreme capitalism a far worse form of extremism, to flourish.

Thus we see the republicans running up the national debt and blaming the democrats, then taking the credit when the Democratic have wound it back. Hence an economy that entered the post-war period, enjoying an unprecedented period of prosperity, to see all the gains squandered at the altar of extreme capitalism.

Thus we saw all that had been won, wound back and the minimum wage allowed to completely stalled unchanged for 30 years. Just one of the economic symptoms that underline and highlight the points I've made.
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Thursday, 5 November 2020 11:12:41 AM
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Democracy is not being scuttled by any party in particular. When Democracy can be categorised into so many groups or types, then all the whining about the loss of Democracy falls flat.

Trump is simply applying every trick Democracy will allow. Stacking the Supreme Court with friendly voices is not his invention.
This will challenge the Democrats “trick” of postal voting which traditionally favours them. That’s fair and Democratic.

Personally, I think a new category of Democracy should be raised exclusively for the US: Snake Oil Democracy.

Dan
Posted by diver dan, Thursday, 5 November 2020 12:28:19 PM
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Complete and utter balderdash, Binoy Kampmark.

Democracies equal world peace because while totalitarian countries go to war with other totalitarian countries, and democracies go to war with totalitarian countries, democracies have never gone to war with each other.

The primary means of creating a stable and peaceful democracy is to have population who have a general agreement upon what constitutes right and wrong behaviour. Democracies are doomed where foolish people for reasons of power, virtue signalling or outright stupidity promote the importation of immigrants from failed societies who have diametrically opposed cultural values to the host population. President Macron of France recently declared the French people are defined by their commitment to free speech, especially the idea of mocking the clergy. This is because in the time of Louise the 16th, the church was rightly seen as an instrument of oppression against the vast majority of French.

Then along comes multiculturalism and by some form of collective insanity combined with apathy, France allowed the importation of Muslim people who's cultural values are violently opposed to the mocking of their particular religion. The result has been, of course, numerous attacks by Muslims on French people. Is it any wonder that pure hatred of Muslims is rising in France?

The USA is another case in point. Black Africans were imported by rich southern plantation owners to work their farms, without any concern for whatever future social problems that bringing a fast breeding race of people with low collective intelligence and a genetic predisposition to violence greater than any other race would do to future social cohesion. Even today, rich Republicans openly endorse illegal immigrants as workers on their fruit farms and ranches, and too hell with the future consequences.

Those consequences are now coming home to roost. The USA is now a nation divided by race and culture will not survive as a democracy. The future of the USA is either as a left wing or right wing totalitarian state. Gun sales are through the roof. We are looking at another US civil war no matter who wins the US Presidential election.
Posted by LEGO, Thursday, 5 November 2020 4:56:49 PM
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Hey Diver. Is closing counting early to give the democrats time to "DISCOVER" 200,000 votes for their bloke fair in this new democracy?

I think that when you can smell a rat, it is highly likely there is a ray to be found.
Posted by Hasbeen, Thursday, 5 November 2020 6:28:51 PM
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MAJOR BOOKIE PAYS OUT ON BIDEN

You heard it here “officially” at http://www.9news.com.au/national/us-election-2020-sportsbet-pays-out-early-on-joe-biden-win/a722588b-85ec-4a87-a524-a1e592123691 5 November 2020 11.20am:

“Aussie bookmaker Sportsbet pays out early on Joe Biden win”

“Aussie bookmaker Sportsbet has become the first local wagering company to confirm it will pay out on Joe Biden winning the US Election.

The bookie said in a statement that it had paid $23 million and over 100,000 bets to players who backed Joe Biden to win the election.

"After CNN projected the state of Michigan would go to the Democrats and holding the ascendancy in Nevada and Arizona, the online bookmaker has deemed the lead unassailable," Sportsbet said in a statement.

"With postal votes and potential legal proceedings to play out, it could be weeks before an announcement is officially made. But we've seen enough, so why make the punters wait?"

Despite the election not officially over - not all votes have been counted - the betting markets have swung heavily again to position Joe Biden as a short odds favourite.

The US Election has become an unlikely punter's paradise as big odds have been offered for both candidates, swinging back and forth wildly within the past 24 hours.

For months Democratic nominee Joe Biden has been a short-priced favourite to win, paying an average of around $---. Trump, despite being the incumbent president, was paying around $- to win until as late as yesterday morning.

...Aussie bookmaker Sportsbet said -- per cent of all money they had taken on the election had been for Trump. The TAB moderated its books after offering Biden as a high-dollar outsider, and have taken -- per cent of cash for President Trump.

Rich Hummerston from Sportsbet.com.au said the bookie had "supreme confidence" of a Biden win.

"In 2019, we made the call to pay out on Labor two days before the federal election, and we know how that panned out. However, we have supreme confidence that Biden will end up in the Oval Office," said Mr Hummerston..."

MOST AMOUNTS REMOVED
Posted by plantagenet, Thursday, 5 November 2020 7:25:09 PM
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P.S. Best not to bet. Probably conditions on top of odds apply.
Posted by plantagenet, Thursday, 5 November 2020 7:46:23 PM
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