Yes, there is a lot of fear-mongering in the land of the"free". The brainwashed fear of socialism, delusional and self-harming. And in the brainwashed American group-mind, seen as hated communism. And as group think/belief, has allowed extreme capitalism a far worse form of extremism, to flourish.

Thus we see the republicans running up the national debt and blaming the democrats, then taking the credit when the Democratic have wound it back. Hence an economy that entered the post-war period, enjoying an unprecedented period of prosperity, to see all the gains squandered at the altar of extreme capitalism.

Thus we saw all that had been won, wound back and the minimum wage allowed to completely stalled unchanged for 30 years. Just one of the economic symptoms that underline and highlight the points I've made.
Alan B.

Democracy is not being scuttled by any party in particular. When Democracy can be categorised into so many groups or types, then all the whining about the loss of Democracy falls flat.

Trump is simply applying every trick Democracy will allow. Stacking the Supreme Court with friendly voices is not his invention.
This will challenge the Democrats “trick” of postal voting which traditionally favours them. That’s fair and Democratic.

Personally, I think a new category of Democracy should be raised exclusively for the US: Snake Oil Democracy.

Dan

Complete and utter balderdash, Binoy Kampmark.

Democracies equal world peace because while totalitarian countries go to war with other totalitarian countries, and democracies go to war with totalitarian countries, democracies have never gone to war with each other.

The primary means of creating a stable and peaceful democracy is to have population who have a general agreement upon what constitutes right and wrong behaviour. Democracies are doomed where foolish people for reasons of power, virtue signalling or outright stupidity promote the importation of immigrants from failed societies who have diametrically opposed cultural values to the host population. President Macron of France recently declared the French people are defined by their commitment to free speech, especially the idea of mocking the clergy. This is because in the time of Louise the 16th, the church was rightly seen as an instrument of oppression against the vast majority of French.

Then along comes multiculturalism and by some form of collective insanity combined with apathy, France allowed the importation of Muslim people who's cultural values are violently opposed to the mocking of their particular religion. The result has been, of course, numerous attacks by Muslims on French people. Is it any wonder that pure hatred of Muslims is rising in France?

The USA is another case in point. Black Africans were imported by rich southern plantation owners to work their farms, without any concern for whatever future social problems that bringing a fast breeding race of people with low collective intelligence and a genetic predisposition to violence greater than any other race would do to future social cohesion. Even today, rich Republicans openly endorse illegal immigrants as workers on their fruit farms and ranches, and too hell with the future consequences.

Those consequences are now coming home to roost. The USA is now a nation divided by race and culture will not survive as a democracy. The future of the USA is either as a left wing or right wing totalitarian state. Gun sales are through the roof. We are looking at another US civil war no matter who wins the US Presidential election.

Hey Diver. Is closing counting early to give the democrats time to "DISCOVER" 200,000 votes for their bloke fair in this new democracy?

I think that when you can smell a rat, it is highly likely there is a ray to be found.

MAJOR BOOKIE PAYS OUT ON BIDEN

You heard it here “officially” at http://www.9news.com.au/national/us-election-2020-sportsbet-pays-out-early-on-joe-biden-win/a722588b-85ec-4a87-a524-a1e592123691 5 November 2020 11.20am:

“Aussie bookmaker Sportsbet pays out early on Joe Biden win”

“Aussie bookmaker Sportsbet has become the first local wagering company to confirm it will pay out on Joe Biden winning the US Election.

The bookie said in a statement that it had paid $23 million and over 100,000 bets to players who backed Joe Biden to win the election.

"After CNN projected the state of Michigan would go to the Democrats and holding the ascendancy in Nevada and Arizona, the online bookmaker has deemed the lead unassailable," Sportsbet said in a statement.

"With postal votes and potential legal proceedings to play out, it could be weeks before an announcement is officially made. But we've seen enough, so why make the punters wait?"

Despite the election not officially over - not all votes have been counted - the betting markets have swung heavily again to position Joe Biden as a short odds favourite.

The US Election has become an unlikely punter's paradise as big odds have been offered for both candidates, swinging back and forth wildly within the past 24 hours.

For months Democratic nominee Joe Biden has been a short-priced favourite to win, paying an average of around $---. Trump, despite being the incumbent president, was paying around $- to win until as late as yesterday morning.

...Aussie bookmaker Sportsbet said -- per cent of all money they had taken on the election had been for Trump. The TAB moderated its books after offering Biden as a high-dollar outsider, and have taken -- per cent of cash for President Trump.

Rich Hummerston from Sportsbet.com.au said the bookie had "supreme confidence" of a Biden win.

"In 2019, we made the call to pay out on Labor two days before the federal election, and we know how that panned out. However, we have supreme confidence that Biden will end up in the Oval Office," said Mr Hummerston..."

MOST AMOUNTS REMOVED

P.S. Best not to bet. Probably conditions on top of odds apply.

TRUMP in October said, 'COULD YOU IMAGINE IF I LOSE?' 'MAYBE I’LL HAVE TO LEAVE THE COUNTRY'

FOX NEWS LOOKS BACK

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/flashback-trump-in-october-could-you-imagine-if-i-lose

"Flashback: Trump in October said, 'Could you imagine if I lose?' 'Maybe I’ll have to leave the country' Trump said.

President Trump mocked the idea of losing to former Vice President Joe Biden during a campaign rally less than a month before Election Day, pointing to his rival as the "worst candidate in the history of presidential politics.

The Fox News Decision Desk on Saturday called the race for Biden after results in Pennsylvania and Nevada put him above the 270 electoral vote threshold necessary to clinch victory in the Electoral College.

During an Oct. 16 rally at the Middle Georgia Regional Airport in Macon, Ga., Trump broached the specter of him losing to Biden in front of hundreds of supporters.

"I shouldn’t joke, I shouldn’t joke because you know what? Running against the worst candidate in the history of presidential politics puts pressure on me. Could you imagine if I lose?" Trump said at the time.

"My whole life — what am I going to do? I’m going to say, I lost to the worst candidate in the history of politics! I’m not going to feel so good. Maybe I’ll have to leave the country, I don’t know."

He hasn’t lost Plantagenet

The Dems,the media and the Democratic states cheated in every which way.
First the establishment owned, elite class, media, went on a four year vicious lying,
Demonising campaign against Pres Trump. It was sickening. Including here in Australia. These are not like the Australians I ever knew.

So after obtaining at least half of any votes for Biden through lies by the media, you can say those votes were not legitimate for a start. Based on lies.

But as election night went on although the lying media kept saying it was close, in fact it wasn’t. Pres Trump was ahead by 600,000 votes in Pennsylvania, 150,000.votes ahead in one of those other must win states and ahead in the most important states.
He had won Texas early but they never announced it.

At midnight, when Pres Trump was winning big everywhere the media suddenly shut everything to do with the election down, People said they noticed an eerie silence that seemed to happen across alll stations at the same time.

When enquires were made, they were told all counting had stopped and people had gone home and would return in the morning.

However the counting of the mail-in votes didn’t stop, all they wanted to do was fool the scrutineers into going home. In fact in the early ours of the night without any independent scrutineers there, they had counted 187,000 mail- in votes for Biden. Not even an odd vote for Trump amongst them.
Having no scrutineers is illegal in Australia, and any properly run Democracy.

I think it is in America also. The Dem state governors though, run things their own way.

In another incident ...........
Continued below

Cont…….
In another incident, a Republican was standing back observing the Count in a Dem State, when he said, he noticed something out of the ordinary, that he hadn’t seen happening before. Someone came in with a red box and took a big pile of mail-in votes off a desk and put them in the box and walked with them into a back room. Leaving the box with the ballots in there.

When he questioned it. They came out and announced it was lunch time and told the scrutineers they should go and have lunch. When they arrived back,three black police guards wouldn’t let the scrutinisers back in. They said it was because of Covid distancing. But they hadn’t said that before. They locked the doors and went on counting, again without any oversight.

Also a computer in one place can’t remember which city it was, was found to have transferred a big pile of votes to Biden and not Pres Trump. They said it was a glitch in the system and gave the votes back to Trump, which again put him in front in that area.

They cheated alright! that swing was big across the board, when a swing like that happens it happens everywhere but the media kept the propaganda going like they did with their drastically wrong polls, that it was close. That then, allowed them to cheat without it seeming too obvious to the public.

Dear Cherful,

Don't be a blattering bloody idiot. Trump repeatedly called his supporters to vote in person on election day. The Democrats, partially because of the Covid risks, enjoined their supporters to do postal voting.

That is the reason why the early counting showed a Trump lead in many places which was then overtaken when the postal votes started being counted.

Stop being a cry baby, accept the result and just move on.

US politics will be boring without Trump.

"Planet America" will need close shop.

Trump's quip in October: "'COULD YOU IMAGINE IF I LOSE? MAYBE I’LL HAVE TO LEAVE THE COUNTRY" is becoming true.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/flashback-trump-in-october-could-you-imagine-if-i-lose

According to Trump's Prenup Melania will get a better divorce payout now. But Trump's US$400,000,000 in debt.

Trump will need to run far and fast to beat the New York lawsuits.

Maybe escape to his best friend's place at the Kremlin, Moscow.
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OLO's Trumpets will be leaderless. What will they do?

http://youtu.be/FHcUArjHxHI?t=38s