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Do elites rule at the ABC? : Comments

By Peter West, published 29/10/2020

Is the Australian Broadcasting Corporation too focused on the interests of a relatively small group of people in the inner cities of Sydney and Melbourne?

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Took a while, but Peter West Is simply chiming in safely to the latest clarion call from the conservatives, to bring the ABC to heel. That will be as an event, about as useful as a tit on a boar pig.

Their efforts are tokenism. The defunding of the sick mob is vastly inadequate and way way too slow.

And through Wests whole argument, not one mention of their infernal free advertising over a three year period, pushing the joys of homosexuality, and championing gay rights parallel with a loud anti Christianity tirade spanning the same period.

I’m sick to the top teeth of gutless responses to this subject!

Dan
Posted by diver dan, Thursday, 29 October 2020 8:05:23 AM
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Spot on Peter, But the ABC leftie luvees will hate you. If I recall Essery;' piece in May-ish this year got them nailed by replacing the " Our ABC" with Their ABC".

I would suggest given the current on screen presence and behind the scene dominance of left-wing Feminists female producers. REFORM is long over due, but I doubt Scomo or ITA the chairwoman will be doing anything about the unbalanced reporting on all issues, and with a feminist slant. The worms need to turn!
Posted by Alison Jane, Thursday, 29 October 2020 8:38:59 AM
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A very accurate description of the ABC.
The ABC supports any trendy proposal that sticks up.
It promotes the conventional Global Warming belief as the one exception.
They are like the "All whites are racists mob" they are the most
racist of all.
Posted by Bazz, Thursday, 29 October 2020 9:31:33 AM
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If anyone is to rule the ABC it should be the people, where the money comes from, via the Minister for Communications. But we have never had a Minister with the guts to the job.

There is no point in discussing it, though. It has been discussed, ad nauseum, for decades to no avail
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 29 October 2020 11:04:13 AM
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In all Australia, only 0.2% are employed in the mining industry.

So we would not lose many jobs, if we lost/gave up/replaced fossil fuels!

Our coal industry is controlled or owned by foreign interests. Many with a record of tax evasion, price gouging and profit repatriation/and huge royalty holidays.

Soon there will be far fewer jobs in open-cut mining as robots take more and more production roles.

That said, agree with the repetitious emphasis on women's interests in the ABC, almost to the exclusion of science, given it's not a popular topic with most females? Seem to be able to come to a position on many topics, not completely supported by the science?

I mean ask any female ABC officinadia, how a nuclear reactor works and not one will be able to tell you. And as a rule for lack of interest. Or dismissed with a smorgasbord of misinformation?

Moreover, if you ask which source of energy, comes with the lowest death toll, greeted with absolute disbelief, when told, it's nuclear?

Similarly, the gender-based disbelief, is evidenced when they hear that nuclear power is able to provide reticulated domestic energy at less than 2 cents PKWH. That sunlight helps protect you from covid-19!

We know and I've predicted that our coal and gas export has a very limited life! And we could be left with many stranded assets, with our inability to consider replacing these with something that is more rational were we not held hostage by ancient, if powerful, vested interest!

And our ABC is part of the problem given how much is a city version of a CWA meeting? Except country women have wider horizons and more topics in their area of interest!?

At least that is what the available evidence seems to present?
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Thursday, 29 October 2020 11:47:28 AM
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Their ABC is out of touch and out of control .

It is beyond saving .

Bin it.
Posted by Aspley, Thursday, 29 October 2020 1:42:07 PM
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victimhood and identity politics rules the abc. Overpaid feminist throwing tantrums and pushing for more money while spewing out their marxist garbage including gw hysteria and more recently covid hysteria and lies. They should be privatised instead of using public money on their trash. And lets not forget the charming Indigenous women pulling her skirt up to c ap on whities.
Posted by runner, Thursday, 29 October 2020 2:24:32 PM
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In many countries coal will end not because of the greenies but
because of energy return on energy expended.
The US and Germany are close to that level. We have probably by
various reports got multiple 100s of years of coal if we stopped
exporting it.
Here is a proposition for the ABC/Greenies;
We stop exporting coal and use it in our own power stations until the
ERoEI gets to 7. Then we will replace it with the cheapest source
be it nuclear fission, nuclear fusion, wind, solar whichever is the
cheapest and reliable at the time.
That would reduce the amount of CO2 released if that worries them.
Posted by Bazz, Thursday, 29 October 2020 3:18:50 PM
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Peter West mentioned the ABC's gentle attitude to the moslem community.
What else can you expect, they would be very exposed to retaliation
if they were to tell it as it is.
Just look at Charlie Hebdo magazine in Paris, years later anyone
talking about the cartoons gets their head cut off.
They hardly ever mention the 100,000s murdered in Africa by the Jehadis.
All they would have to do is drive a van of explosives into that drive
in area in Harris St and walk away and it would blow the whole front
area with all floors away. It has very poor security.

Anyway Imrahn Kahn the ex cricketer now President of Pakistan wants
the UN to require all UN countries to make illegal criticism of Islam .
It is very likely to come about as the OIC (Organisation of Islamic
Countries) as a block controls the Human Rights Commission and almost
controls the UN itself.
They want "Islamophobia" made a criminal offense.

Just writing the above would have the police with a warrant on
Graham's doorstep demanding my real name and email address.
If you think that is far fetched, that is the rule in the UK !
Posted by Bazz, Thursday, 29 October 2020 3:47:19 PM
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Interesting that all the posts so far are in agreement with the general tenat of the authors article. Where are all the usual trolls and lefties.. perhaps too focused on saving Queen Anastasia and Chairman Dan.... or rooting for "one foot in the grave Joe"
Posted by Alison Jane, Thursday, 29 October 2020 4:08:59 PM
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Maybe Sarah Ferguson could redeem her junket where she peddled Russian Collusion for years and do a special on Trump's peace deals with the Arab nations. I am sure had Obama achieved more than paying billions to Iran he would of been applauded many times over. As usual abc has been totally silent on truth and shouting loudly lies. Any apologies yet for getting Pell sent to gaol on trumped up charges. They really are a spiteful and untruthful mob.
Posted by runner, Thursday, 29 October 2020 4:36:04 PM
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Should the ABC just say the same as the Murdoch press then?

Climate change is rubbish, Trump is terrific, Morrison is the Messiah, transgender people threaten our kids...would be the line then....

But ABC would be pointless - pandering to the prejudices of the people of Boggabunyip? Or Penriff, as they call it? Or Parramatta?

No, the ABC must take a lead and chart the way forward, don't you agree? Doesn't matter if a few shibboleths are shaken or a few troglodytes are snarling at it
Posted by Waverley, Thursday, 29 October 2020 4:47:11 PM
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Bazz. Yes mate, agree absolutely, why not go where the irrefutable evidence directs, as unsubsidized energy! And given we roll out graphene (superconductor, 200 times stronger than steel) cored undersea cables, become an energy superpower to the world.

It'll cost us billions to set up, annual billions we could find if we became a safe repository for the world's mountainous nuclear waste. And then be paid annual ongoing billions for providing the service. For storing a product that is mostly unspent fuel, 90-95%! And given the amount, good for centuries of export incomes in annual trillions, unmatched by any other export we could ever produce ever.

After that, we could even export trillions of gallons of desalinated, potable water! Doable with the outlined energy and new space age desal!

Some of which would transport as hydrogen split from the cracked water molecule! And converted to pristine pure water when burnt/used in the target energy market!

All that stands in the way are the politicians with personal investments they are trying to protect? If there's any other logical reason? It entirely escapes me!

And there seems to be form? And still no federal ICAC? It's all blather, blather, excuses, finger-pointing and blame-shifting, as several economic opportunities of a lifetime, for the nation, goes begging.

And because they all (control freaks all) want to lead? And not a real leader among them, to bless ourselves with? The results and outcomes speak for themselves and speak volumes only blind Freddy can't see?

And don't get me started on thorium and the virtual free production of miracle cancer cure, and the quite massive medical tourism we could direct to the emptying out, outback!

Talk about talking to folk who never listen and are science free zones, catering to self-interest and or, powerful vested interest

I mean when was the last time a politician listened, then remarked, hey, that's a good idea? I rest my case.
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Thursday, 29 October 2020 5:01:17 PM
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Waverley,

You’ve succeeded in rebirthing your scornful remarks into an accusing finger pointing back at yourself.

Through all that contemptuous utterance aimed at defending your love child , you’ve actually highlighted the problem beautifully, the deformity of that same love child.

Here it is in simplicity: The ABC is a taxpayer funded enterprise. As a comparison, Murdochs’ press is a private enterprise profit making enterprise, relying on sales for its existence.
If I don’t wish to listen to a Murdoch line, I don’t pay the dollars. That’s called choice!
Whereas, in the case of the taxpayer funded ABC which is funded partly by me as a former and current taxpayer, I’m powerless to intervene in its editorial biases.

Do you now see the problem?

Dan.
Posted by diver dan, Thursday, 29 October 2020 5:29:09 PM
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By the way, Murdoch is subsidised by the Morrison Government. They gave his papers millions so he could promote women's sport. And did it again, recently.

Surely we can tolerate one stable of publications that is a bit left-wing and promotes progressive issues? Some of the shows on ABC are useful anbd witty- eg Utopia. Summets High was fun, and very non- PC.

Gardening show is good stuff. There is more, if you take off your blinkers, surely?
Posted by Waverley, Thursday, 29 October 2020 6:41:06 PM
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sad thing is that those who want the ABC to promote their ideas, don't realise that its meant to be the national broadcaster and reporter.. not the "their ABC" agenda setting news maker.

If you want to see how the ABC performs on being "Our ABC" ,just look at the lack of balanced reporting and the dominance of "their ABC" opinion shows.... from dawn to dusk!
Posted by Alison Jane, Thursday, 29 October 2020 6:50:04 PM
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Waverly, the subsidy is as said by the author, a cap touch to the feminists.
They got the money because no one wanted to watch the ladies rugby
and cricket. It takes money to run a channel and if no one watches
why bother.
Posted by Bazz, Thursday, 29 October 2020 8:30:12 PM
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Waverley.

You say:

*... By the way, Murdoch is subsidised by the Morrison Government. They gave his papers millions so he could promote women's sport. And did it again, recently...*

This may be true as you say, I’ll accept its authenticity at face value; but so what, what’s your point?
That would be a criticism against the Morrison Government. I have some myself.

And your drawing a long bow suggesting Murdoch Press are promoting their own agenda by accepting a Government advertising contract. That’s not even logical.

Then this:

*... Surely we can tolerate one stable of publications that is a bit left-wing and promotes progressive issues? Some of the shows on ABC are useful anbd witty- eg Utopia. Summets High was fun, and very non- PC...*

We have an over abundance of those in the commercial sector now. That is a legitimate place for them to be, and that my dear Waverley, is the whole point of defunding and privatising the ABC.

After that happens they would have my blessings, but not my dollars, and happy I would be, watching them disappear into the haze of insignificance, where that counter cultural WOKE ideology belongs. It certainly does not belong in my life and I resent immensely watching a taxpayer funded organisation trample over my cultural belief system. Its not the job of the ABC to do that.

and finally this:

...* Gardening show is good stuff. There is more, if you take off your blinkers, surely?..*

well to this sop I say, Hitler had some good points too. He loved his dog’s!

Dan
Posted by diver dan, Thursday, 29 October 2020 8:54:56 PM
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Thanks Peter West for this article.
Posted by Canem Malum, Thursday, 29 October 2020 10:35:50 PM
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Dear me, some of these commenters seem extremely cranky and ill-satisfied.

And what media outlets are left-wing? The Sydney Daily Terror has heaps of people attacking left-wingers. The Aust more so. I didn't notice any commie tendencies on Channel 9.. or 7..

Not that I'm sure what's left wing any more. Someone slightly more radical than D. Trump perhaps?
Posted by Waverley, Friday, 30 October 2020 12:57:03 PM
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Defund the ABC.
Posted by Canem Malum, Saturday, 31 October 2020 3:29:27 AM
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Make Our ABC Great Again! 2020,
Enough SAID!
Posted by Alison Jane, Saturday, 31 October 2020 5:07:06 AM
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Years ago my son started work at the ABC TV studios in the technical
services management of TV. A friend who was already there warned him
on the first day; "If you vote Liberal keep it to yourself if you
want a career here".
As my son later said
"The only people in the closet at the ABC are the Liberal voters"
The queers and the women are the ones running the place.
He years later got pushed out by his woman boss who got her husband
into his job.

So I think what we hear about how the ABC is managed is very likely true.
Posted by Bazz, Saturday, 31 October 2020 7:59:54 AM
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Gee, hardly anybody disagrees. Toughm huh? Where are all the ABC supporters?
Posted by Waverley, Saturday, 31 October 2020 10:37:03 AM
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Where are all the ABC supporters?
Waverley,
Cooped up in the ABC buildings !
Posted by individual, Saturday, 31 October 2020 12:29:41 PM
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Their all hiding in the Bunker in full Lid Down... Trump is going to get a home run and Queen Anastasia is hiding in the closet of her office, as she was slam-dunked by the LNP contender in the debates..

They need their " safe-space" to prepare themselves for both " Ends of Days" that are coming... compared to these, Her ABC is secondary!
Posted by Alison Jane, Saturday, 31 October 2020 2:20:35 PM
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Do elites rule at the ABC?

Of course they do. Conservative governments have constantly leveraged in far right board members and rightwing Chair persons for a long time.

Buttrose may well be a more soft conservative but is certainly an Australian elite.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Saturday, 31 October 2020 5:37:23 PM
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So Steel rednuts are you saying "her ABC" is conservative?... what brand of weed are you on? matie??
Posted by Alison Jane, Saturday, 31 October 2020 5:48:21 PM
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.... far right board members and rightwing Chair persons for a long time.
SteeleRedux,
You'd better read up what rightwing means ! I definitely does not infer hand-out mentality, no responsibility & indifference for the future of this Nation !
Posted by individual, Saturday, 31 October 2020 9:28:25 PM
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Well let's see what the ABC says about the success of ALP in Queensland and Donald J Trump. assuming that happens, hmmm (as Vera says)
Posted by Waverley, Sunday, 1 November 2020 8:08:56 AM
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So what you are saying ( individual) is that despite a right wing board, the leftwing staff do whatever the feck they want!

"Out of the mounts of babes as they say, Thanks for the low-down and confirmation of everything all before have said and including the author!

Made my wet Sunday mate! Cheers
Posted by Alison Jane, Sunday, 1 November 2020 10:19:17 AM
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Dear Alison Jane,

Let's try and get your poor addled brain around the issue.

You will remember the question was “Do elites rule at the ABC?”. The 'rulers' of any corporation are the board. They employ of sack the CEO. They set the direction of the organisation and the Chair has enormous power.

In the case of the ABC many have been either right wing political hacks or right wing agitators like Windshuttle. What he was suppose to bring to the table who knows.

So the question is do these right wing elites rule the ABC? Of course they do, just like in any other corporation.

My favourite political commentator right now has repeatedly called out the ABC for rightwing bias. He makes the point that the Liberals really don't want to privatise the ABC because they control it. He has a point.

http://youtu.be/HtV-2X4BjQI

http://youtu.be/TWXDGGWB3Mw

http://youtu.be/bOKf0pWpoQg

Although to be fair he also calls out the elitism as well.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Sunday, 1 November 2020 11:07:56 AM
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despite a right wing board, the leftwing staff do whatever the feck they want!
Alison Jane,
Standard Public Service mentality conduct !
Posted by individual, Sunday, 1 November 2020 11:29:53 AM
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Oh my oh my master Steel rednuts, your so firm and impressive, what can I say.....your intellect is so very, very, very..... small!
Hippo weekend and stop pulling the wings of little winged insects.
Posted by Alison Jane, Sunday, 1 November 2020 6:46:55 PM
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Yupp! Individual... and they get $500k-$1000k pa plus Gongs and Boardships on retirement.
Posted by Alison Jane, Sunday, 1 November 2020 6:49:05 PM
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I wonder what the cries of Labor would have sounded like if the Coalition had gone about buying votes as Labor did ?
And, please don't deny that creating thousands more Public Service positions for guaranteed voter support isn't vote buying !
Posted by individual, Sunday, 1 November 2020 7:47:05 PM
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Dear Alison Jane,

Yes sorry, I really should let you flitter around a little more uninhibited. You do know however at some stage I will need to pull you up. Enjoy.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Sunday, 1 November 2020 8:07:27 PM
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New idea for 4 corners, ABC prejudices , sure as, region, the Catholic Church , poor old Pell. Senior etc etc
Eden
Posted by Eden, Monday, 2 November 2020 4:05:39 PM
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right or left wing their is very little decency about the abc. Look how much attention was paid to the black woman slaughtered by a muslim in a church in Nice last week. Instead endless made up fantasies made up about Trump. And yes when a violent drug filled man is killed by police they join with the marxist blm hypocrites who obviously were so 'concerned' about a black woman beheaded in France. Oh that's right its the whities fault!
Posted by runner, Monday, 2 November 2020 4:36:10 PM
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Dear Eden,

What on earth are you talking about?

Do you think the ABC shouldn't have highlighted the abuse and coverups which were occurring within the Catholic church? Do you think the Royal Commission they pushed for shouldn't have happened?

They have done our nation a great service in exposing the buggering of our youngsters by monsters within the Church and the evil, evil people who secreted them away to offend all over again. Pell was one of them.

Or do you want them conducting business as usual? How sick would you have to be to want that?

Dear runner,

The above is the direct result of a failure of your religion. The attempted beheading was a failure of another. Very much tarred by the same brush in my opinion I'm afraid.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Monday, 2 November 2020 5:59:33 PM
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'Very much tarred by the same brush in my opinion I'm afraid.'

Oh Steelie the last time I checked it is your godless mob that tear apart unborn babies. Islam and marxist are death cults under different banners. No wonder you cheered along with the abc gaoling an innocent man while virtue signalling. Congratulations, you ought to apply for a job with abc. You would go along way. Just pretend you are transgender and you will go even further.
Posted by runner, Monday, 2 November 2020 6:40:57 PM
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Time to go to bed kiddies and let the author of this provocative, yet factual opinion piece move on! Nightie night, sweet dreams etce etc....
Posted by Alison Jane, Monday, 2 November 2020 7:09:05 PM
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Dear Alison Jane,

And off to bed with you too, with your wings intact of course.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Monday, 2 November 2020 7:14:53 PM
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What a dumb question. Is the pope a Catholic?
Posted by LEGO, Wednesday, 4 November 2020 5:24:21 PM
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ABC TV not great on US election. Clearly LEigh Sales couldn't understand why Americans don't share her view that Trump is a fool and an abuser of women, etc etc.

And as for Stan grant- ugh.

Can't Stan him.

Does the ABC think he;s an expert on everything?
Posted by Waverley, Thursday, 5 November 2020 7:26:34 PM
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