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The protests are in the name of freedom. But what is freedom? : Comments

By John Wright, published 26/10/2020

Throughout much of the world there have been protests, in the name of freedom, against some of the steps taken by governments to stop the spread of Covid-19.

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Freedom is doing what you want to do, and thinking what you want to think. No deep philosophy needed. You cannot have your freedom of thought removed, but authorities can certainly take away your physical freedoms. Sometimes loss of freedom is for the common good; sometimes it is sheer bastardry and politicians' lust for power (China and Victoria). Protests are useless, because the people who curtail your freedoms will use brute force and hurt you (China and Victoria).
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 26 October 2020 8:04:35 AM
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Interesting article, but simply put, Covid-19 is not the real issue. Sure its a strong version of flu virus strain, sure it has killed million... BUT more die of starvation, terrorism, religious abuse and many natural causes. The killer aspect of covi1-9 lies in governments mismanagement and political opportunism ( and don't forget China.

We are all suffering financially, socially and mentally. Politicians are having a ball playing games and jockey for advantages. "Chiana" and WHO are still negotiating what studies are needed to assess the source but they are only looking at the wet market animal-human transfer! i.e a source that has been identified to be a weak candidate for the source using detailed DNA analysis!.

Freedom?... in these days of social media/ fake biased "mainstream news"... we have lost freedom long ago.
Posted by Alison Jane, Monday, 26 October 2020 8:23:05 AM
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sheer bastardry and politicians' lust for power (China and Victoria).
ttbn,
I think in those two examples you're confusing necessity with lust for power !
How else could one deal with people to whom responsibility is a foreign word ?
And, to whom giving is a dirty word ?
Posted by individual, Monday, 26 October 2020 8:51:39 AM
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There is a difference between Liberty and freedom.
Why canít it be said we demand liberty of speech and not freedom of speech?

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*...Broadly speaking, liberty is the ability to do as one pleases. ... Thus liberty entails the responsible use of freedom under the rule of law without depriving anyone else of their freedom. Freedom is more broad in that it represents a total lack of restraint or the unrestrained ability to fulfill one's desires...*

In this comparative context, freedom of speech allows us unfettered rights to say anything anywhere.
So freedom of speech is actually an unresolvable problem

Dan
Posted by diver dan, Monday, 26 October 2020 9:13:55 AM
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individual,

What "necessity"? If you are talking about Dictator Dan's tearing away of freedoms via lockdowns, lockdowns are totally Unnecessary and have proved to be useless at best, causing more problems at worst. All other Australian states, particularly mine, have done well. Victoria's loss of freedoms has turned it into a basket case and a mini-China. If anyone is 'confused' it isn't me.

People lacking responsibility can be dealt with without punishing the entire population and attacking their freedoms as the psychopath in Little China has done.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 26 October 2020 9:55:31 AM
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Freedom includes freedom from infected folk roaming without constraint spreading as super spreaders, a highly contagious virus that has already taken over a million lives! Has infected over forty million and even though many of the infected spreaders don't experience symptoms, they can and do infect other folks who then infect other folks, who then go on to infect others! And at near lightning speed.

And there are possible long term negative consequences for the seemingly healthy infected cohort?

Most of these folk are the reason all our freedom is compromised. In the UK, e.g., only 11% of folks who have been asked to self-isolate have been compliant! And the reason there is now a second wave that may require enforced reduced freedom of movement? As the only current means envisaged of containing a highly contagious, contagion!

Perhaps the only way to get compliance, is a shoot the non-compliant with bean bag ammunition? And then spray the forehead with an indelible dye that takes a few months to scrub off?

So they are identifiable when breaching orders!

On a more positive note, the non-compliant have had their combined IQ tested and the results have come back negative?
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Monday, 26 October 2020 10:23:24 AM
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