Does anyone have the figures of COVID-19 casualties in countries where hospitalisation is of a lesser standard than here ?
What is happening to all other medical cases since COVID-19 has hijacked the daily headlines ?
Are there any figures of infections transmitted on flights lately ? Surely there are reports & figures besides Dan Andrews ? Does COVID-19 only attack the respiration system of normal people & only the brains of Australian journalists ?

Hey Luciferase,
Your arguments seem valid enough.
"However, no point in that because 20000 lives will be shortened whatever we do."

I don't know, maybe you're right.
But we had to try, didn't we?

We can't just do nothing and pick 20,000 names out of a hat and say you lot have been nominated to pay the ultimate price.

Hurry up and just die already, so the rest of us can get on with it.

I don't like the idea of peoples lives being shortened on terms other than their own.
Like if you want to check out by your own hand there's nothing to stop you.
But when some foul foreign disease wants to dictate these terms surrounding your existence I'll stand against that.

You have a right to not be killed by some foreign lab people working within gain-of-function of live viruses.

individual,

Take a read of what's happening in India: http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/economy/indicators/about-400-million-workers-in-india-may-sink-into-poverty-un-report/articleshow/75041922.cms

AC, that 100K each doesn't factor in the effects on everyone else of border closures, isolation, lockdowns. For example, what of suicidal business owners who've lost their houses and and owe money left right and centre? Don't you care about them just because suicide is a choice? We don't need Sentimental Blokes making the decisions at this time, the facts and likelihoods are in and action is needed.

Again, note http://ourworldindata.org/grapher/daily-covid-deaths-per-million-7-day-average?time=2020-08-11..latest&country=~SWE not a death in days but life pretty much normal compared with Victoria.

Wouldn't be quite so bad running up this fear debt if the constraints on economic activity were being removed.
Someone mentioned above and I agree the permit, licencing and accreditation fad's killing us and there's no sign of any intention to start winding it back. It's only extortion anyway.
If fear's our driving force I suppose the question should be do we want an orderly reordering and recovery or a disorderly one.
Most likely we're all going to get this China flu and the'll be no useful vaccine.

Jamo said- "the permit, licencing and accreditation fad's killing us and there's no sign of any intention to start winding it back. It's only extortion anyway."

Answer- Ex-Communist Trotskyite James Burnham (friend of Leon Trotsky apparently) in the 40's said that this "Managerialism" was the future of "Communism" and the world.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Burnham