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A better way of dealing with Covid-19 : Comments

By Spencer Gear, published 31/8/2020

How much have we been duped and sold down the river by the response?

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The only way to deal with the WuFlu is to develop a vaccine against it.

Until that happens it will be a game of Russian roulette with lockdowns and restrictions and an acceptance that we might never rid ourselves of the pandemic and this is how we and probably future generations will have to live.

WARNING: DO NOT TRUST THE RUSSIANS AND CHINESE TO GIVE YOU THEIR VACCINES.
Posted by Mr Opinion, Monday, 31 August 2020 11:20:19 AM
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The Inspector,

<<People who contract the Chinese Virus can be left with ongoing serious health problems, like nerve damage, chronic diarrhea etc etc.>>

In the journal, newsGP, there was an article, 'What are the long-term health risks following COVID-19?' http://www1.racgp.org.au/newsgp/clinical/what-are-the-long-term-health-risks-post-covid-19

Dr Evelyn Lewin pointed out that around 30% of patients who were in intensive care for Covid-19 may have long-term pulmonary [lung] damage. 'Up to half of patients treated for the virus in intensive care units (ICUs) may be left with ‘persistent physical, cognitive and psychological impairments’, including chronic fatigue'.

However, 99% of Covid cases in Australia did not involve treatment in ICU.

Covid is a serious disease but so are Dengue, HIV/AIDS and Malaria for which there are still no vaccines.

For Covid-19, 'Australia’s pandemic death toll has hit 654 with the announcement of 41 more deaths, all of them in Victoria', http://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-17/coronavirus-cases-data-reveals-how-covid-19-spreads-in-australia/12060704?nw=0

The major issue continues to be: Where is the evidence that closing borders, preventing movement by people from certain suburbs, 2 weeks in quarantine (lockdowns), and keeping children out of school works? I'm waiting to read researched evidence, especially in light of the statement by Professor Mark Woolhouse, an epidemiologist at the University of Edinburgh, who is advising the British Government on Covid-19. He said that there is no proof that Covid-19 is transmitted from pupil to teacher in school anywhere in the world (with one exception in Australia), http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8548461/No-proof-teacher-caught-Covid-19-pupil-scientist-says.html
Posted by OzSpen, Monday, 31 August 2020 11:21:58 AM
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OZpen, thank you! All viruses CAN leave people with horrible effect and this has been know for over one hundred years. Nice try at frightening but it will not work on adults just the weak minded.
This whole exercise is to reduce Australia to a fascist state especially in Victoria. Weaken us with debt and the Chinese can come to our rescue and buy us all out. Stop all travel for us and enable just the elites to enjoy themselves. Still good news is what has been stolen from us can be reclaimed from the scum on your side of politics mate!
Posted by JBowyer, Monday, 31 August 2020 11:28:38 AM
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Good to see tens of thousands of Brits now protesting against the tyranny taking place. The petty names from the lying liberal media and gullible calling people coviodiots, conspiracy theorist and other derogatory names simply shows the elite and sheep have no answers as they make it up as they go along. The state with our most draconian lockdowns now for about 7 weeks is leading the way in deaths (a record today) here in Australia. And lets not forget the democrat states in the US that also loved the lockdowns with the highest death rates. Wake up people. Your children's freedom is at stake.
Posted by runner, Monday, 31 August 2020 11:43:19 AM
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Would someone please explain: http://ourworldindata.org/grapher/daily-covid-deaths-per-million-7-day-average?country=~SWE

Whatever future health complications that may or may not arise for hospitalised cases, the path forward should remain the same, i.e. matching the rate of infection to the capacity of the health system. Eradication is a pipe-dream.

Locking down and awaiting a vaccine, while simultaneously asserting naturally acquired immunity is not possible, is pointlessly stupid and ignores the evidence of Sweden.

It's time to see that life-shortening is a product of any route we take but ours is destroying our economy and national finances along with it.

Thank goodness China still wants our iron and gold is running high or we'd be even more cactus. What a mess, with state governments able to afford boldly stupid, populist (due to hysterical fear-mongering) isolationist and lockdown policies while the Feds (future generations) pick up the tab. We'll be borrowing into the future to pay for hospitals, welfare, social housing, education etc. and be forced to make some bad deals with the devil.

We're building a huge intergenerational debt because we are too cowardly to directly face what is, very clearly now, a much less deadly virus than first thought. Clinging onto the fact that some might carry health complications forward embellishes the cowardice.
Posted by Luciferase, Monday, 31 August 2020 11:57:18 AM
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Alan B,

You didn't read my article carefully, did you?

<<Question-based on a completely false premise, I believe, by a patently partisan numbskull, whose actual knowleged about infectious disease could be written on the back of a postage stamp, using a crowbar dipped in tar, for a pen!?>>

Are you speaking about Alan Jones or me?

Alan Jones cited experts in the field of epidemiology: (1) Professor Mark Woolhouse, an epidemiologist at the University of Edinburgh, is advising the British Government on Covid-19. He said that there is no proof that Covid-19 is transmitted from pupil to teacher in school anywhere in the world (with one exception in Australia), http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8548461/No-proof-teacher-caught-Covid-19-pupil-scientist-says.html. (2) Top disease expert, Professor of theoretical epidemiology at Oxford University. Sunetra Bupta, scolded Australia for its 'selfish' and 'self congratulatory' lockdown tactics. She urged us to embrace a Swedish-style herd immunity strategy to fight Covid-19.

Alan Jones called upon the top epidemiologists in the world to arrive at his conclusions regarding the spread of Covid-19. Jones' actual knowledge of Covid-19 is gained from world specialists and not according to your pejorative 'back of a postage stamp' view.
Posted by OzSpen, Monday, 31 August 2020 12:29:42 PM
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