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"it is not my responsibility if the guy who takes my money at the pizza shop gets the virus from me"

Or course it is.
Because if you have the virus you should be in quarantined, not being down at the pizza shop.

You even stated such: "Quarantining of sick people must be strictly enforced."

What were you thinking when you wrote that?
were you planning on contradicting yourself?

YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR OWN ACTIONS IN PUTTING OTHERS AT RISK OF HARM,
Also
'YOU HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO YOURSELF TO PROTECT YOURSELF FROM HARM'

"Everyone else must maintain basic physical distancing, hand hygiene and cough/sneeze etiquette, but otherwise be allowed natural freedoms of assembly, movement and trade/commerce."

No, I don't support that anymore.
They had theirr chance to do the right thing, they are not taking things seriously and they are putting the entire nation at risk.
Sure you can point the finger at government for not getting things exactly right, but you personally are arguing for things that will increase the risk of harm to others like you are God and hold the ultimate decision of life and death yourself.

Who do you think you are?

Ultimately all the people in Victoria need to take a look in the mirror if they want someone to blame.

"For everyone else with a morbidity risk if infected no higher than a bad flu year, it should be life as normal with some sensible precautions."

Maybe you should have a look at some of the stories of people that DIDN'T die, they're not healthy, its not a common flu.

I heard Australian medical "Experts" on ABC (where else do we get to hear experts) that this hexachloroquine was of no use without anyone actually trying it. So far, I've only heard of some Yanks including The Donald taking it & being ridiculed for staying healthy thus far.
I think wherever the massive outbreaks occur has something to do with promises of some virgins coming the distributors' way !
The other scenario could be that it is a Chinese gift to the West & yet another scenario could be that Govts got together to manipulate their debts !
There you are, no shortage of conspiracy theories !
For us up in the tropical North, the best remedy thus far has proven to be keeping the southern distributors out !

'Ultimately all the people in Victoria need to take a look in the mirror if they want someone to blame.''

I would of thought Armchair that the origins of the virus (more than likely Wuhan lab) and those who deliberately allowed/sent the virus around the world should really get the blame. Seems like the plandemic has worked perfectly in turning people against people all around the world, Meanwhile you dish up this garbage. You use the pandemic to push bile on Christians, Joe uses it to push bile in Trump and meanwhile the culprits sit and laugh.

The irony is we're told it's all about caring.

Aged Care in Aus has been allowed to putter-along for a dog's age 'on the smell of an oily rag' - with a majority of barely trained staff offered only low casual hours, forcing them to take work at a number of homes to make enough for a 'subsistence living'.

A choice had to be made to maintain reasonable budgets - Federal and States':
1. Either to focus on Early Child Education (ex 'Childcare') - and relevant Gov't Allowances, so more families could have at least one, if not two, adult members working to meet today's aspirational living standards;
2. Or, make better (or at least 'reasonable') provision for the Aged.

No contest! Extraordinary outcry for Early Ed, with more highly skilled staff (and salary increases), greater staff to child ratios, better facilities and activities, and greater responsibility to parents to produce 'results' - and ever-higher costs to government.

Why? Well, Asian kids do so much better - so, had to be because of better Early Ed. Nothing to do with more attentive and disciplined parentage, of course.
This, despite studies which urged against 'pushing' kids too early.

So, Aged Care has been left to fall into the abyss - with musical-chair poorly-skilled staffing, high patient to staff ratio, bare basic nutrition, questionable medical oversight in many instances, and minimal engagement, exercise, outings or entertainment for the 'inmates'.
Mind you, some facilities are brilliant - but just not enough.

Well, the wide deficiencies in Aged Care have come home to roost in this pandemic.
And, we should be rightly castigated for permitting this state of affairs to have existed.

Early Education - overblown Child Care - costs spiraling, and wages chasing the tail, and the aged betrayed.

Time for more compassionate budgeting and service provision?

But, pandemic emptying the coffers, and the Me-Myself-I brigade scurrying to scrounge for the crumbs.

Community, empathy, compassion? Some go to great lengths to ensure others don't go hungry, while so many others should bow their heads in shame at their complacency and disregard.

Lock down the selfish, lest they condemn all.

A.C Joe, Saltpetre. Hear, hear and well said! UNderstand this, morons. The disastrous Italian pandemic was carried to those shores by a single Asymptomatic, i.e., "healthy" Chinese tourist. Consequently, dozens of Italian doctors and nurses died. Had they been suited up as for a highly infectious disease. They would still be with us? And had the patients been treated in hyperbaric chambers, breathing pure oxygen at 3 atmospheres? Many more would have been saved.

We could have squashed this thing flat by a total lockdown from the get go and now be back to near normal with the entire economy humming along!
Alan B.