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Black lives matter, monument defacement and media erasure: unpacking the ethics : Comments

By Rob Cover, published 18/6/2020

The 2020 expansion of the Black Lives Matter protests into a global anti-racism movement in Australia, the United Kingdom and elsewhere has been welcome in countries where black and Indigenous deaths in custody remain unacceptably high.

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Blame the victims for their poverty and disadvantage? How very un-Christian of you yet again.'
SteeleRedux,
No, not the victims, only those who pretend to be victims !
Posted by individual, Thursday, 18 June 2020 5:11:47 PM
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Steele Redux

*...All this nonesence has been debunked, catch up!...*

Yes it has/no it hasn't.

Not only is it debunked in our time, but debunked going back to Germany between the wars, when a shattered nation was resurrecting its domestic politic.

Some would say this period was the era of the rise of fascism. Effectively it was, but not without reason or cause.

Fascism grew from agitators such as BLM and gay marriage look alike, which were in their case, foreign insurgents from Russia, pushing communistIc doctrines.

Berlin was the epicentre of the struggle against its influence. A struggle that descended into gun battles between the two factions on the streets.

We have ample evidence from this historic event which tells us, the only law is at the end of a gun: the only effective opposition to the "left wing" (as some call it) anarchism, is rough justice on the streets. At the end of a gun barrel.

I'd be voting loudly for a fight back based on those tactics.

Dan
Posted by diver dan, Friday, 19 June 2020 9:14:43 AM
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Love one of Trumps latest tweets "First thing the anarchist did upon taking over Seattle was “BUILD A WALL”. See, I was ahead of our times!'

Just for you Joe.
Posted by runner, Friday, 19 June 2020 9:36:37 AM
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Runner,

Are you saying that the CHAZ people ARE correct to build a wall ? Or that, in either case, Trump's or theirs, it isn't right ?

As it happens, I don't think it's right in either case.

Of course, Seattle has been a hotbed of ratbaggery for well over a century.

Joe
Posted by loudmouth2, Friday, 19 June 2020 3:23:15 PM
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Leslie,

Yes, let's settle this misunderstanding:

*. Indigenous people are perhaps ten times (for their population) more likely to be incarcerated. Whether this means they commit offences at a similar rate would be on the public record.

*. currently, around 28 % of people in custody are Indigenous, while 23-25 % of deaths in custody are Indigenous.

Outside of custody, one could assert, Indigenous people have a higher rate of death, from suicide, assault, drownings, car accidents, and general ill-health, than or non-Indigenous people. A much higher proportion of deaths from violence have been Indigenous women. Actually, almost the only suicides that I know of, in my sheltered life, have been Indigenous, some very dear friends.

Are Indigenous people arrested for little or no reason, stitched up and found 'guilty' of offences that they have not committed ? I honestly can't say that i have found that to be the case.

Yes, Indigenous people may have shorter lives. When I lived at one community, I went to so many funerals, so often for young people, that I calculated on one occasion that a third of the entire population seemed to be gone by forty.

And in fifty years, in rural areas, away from opportunities, that doesn't seem to have changed much.

Marginalisation has been the rule for most Indigenous people, thankfully fewer as more seize opportunities, such as in higher education - fifty thousand graduates have taken that path, one in seven or eight adults. But there are - and have been for a couple of generations ow - two socially-distinct populations, one seizing opportunities, one sinking back into welfare - and another generation of marginalisation.

Joe
Posted by loudmouth2, Friday, 19 June 2020 4:03:13 PM
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'Are you saying that the CHAZ people ARE correct to build a wall ? Or that, in either case, Trump's or theirs, it isn't right ?

I don't say anarchist are right to do anything Joe. Personally I would put water cannons on them all. It would disperse them and give them their first wash for a long time. Just find it laughable that the first things these anarchist do is build a wall after throwing so many tantrums at your friend Dr Trump for doing the same.
Posted by runner, Friday, 19 June 2020 5:56:30 PM
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