Yes, another clever news story with hardly any opinion in it.

Defunding police. Abandoning police. The silliest comments ever heard. Perhaps and hopefully, it's just the illiteracy of the speakers knee jerking and emoting after Antifa and other criminal disruptives have been spewing nonsense. These people need to shut their guts until they work out a way to express themselves properly. The world is dangerous enough with police forces, which in general do a bloody good job of protecting us, despite the stupid 'suits' pandering to minority riff raff and thugs.

It's the politicians and people selecting suitable people to be police officers we need to rid ourselves of; and scribblers beating up silly talk.

The author of this drivel should get some real life experience, as opposed to elitist sheltered safe space world he lives in. Go spend sometime (until you are killed) in one of the 100's of lawless hots posts around the world...

It will kill you, but at least you will die finally knowing how naïve and dangerous your thoughts and your appreciation of those who promote a "no-police/law" world.

I remember, at VCE at the Council of Adult Education in the early 1990s, arguing with a fellow student (girl) for four hours about the need for a police force.

She was adamant we did not, I was adamant we did need one. I always had respect for the police, even though I did have some clashes when young (minor).

Could not convince her, but it was an amusing experience.

Binoy,

"If you can envisage the commencement of a police force as a band of auxiliaries to keep slaves in check, capture escapees and sow much terror, it becomes that much clearer."

Perhaps not in Minnesota :)

Hey Binoy.

I am glad those left wing loonies are on your side and not mine.

Fact check: Camden Police Department has now expanded beyond the numbers when it was first disbanded.

Camden History:
The police department was disbanded and then replaced. Replacements included some former Police and Newbies who were paid less.
REASON: It was so corrupt, people, all people, feared it.
REFORM: Cops were encouraged to mingle with the community rather than issue tickets and summons. Friendly policing
KEY RESULTS: 42% decrease in violent crime in seven years. Open air drug markets disappeared. other crime reduced from 79 per 1000 to 45 per 1000 people

Seems reform and re-education works.
'Id say abandoning wholesale policing and replacing it with community workers etc is stupid.
How the heel is a community worker going to defend people from armed intruders, violent mentally ill and ice adits? Talk to them? Good luck with that.

The better reform is to give all people purpose. Ie work and education.
Trump's policies work.

As an aside the racial make up of Camden and Minneapolis are different. Minneapolis is 63%
White whereas Camden it is less than 25%

Camden is not an example of unfolding police it is an example of reform and increased numbers at lower cost.

Yep. The youngsters of Melbourne and Sydney should also be taking to the streets to abolish po-lice forces

and abolish electricity, house dwellers, and the streets themselves.

Abolition? No, daft! And nearly as simple as herding cats or conception achieved whilst standing in a hammock.

Albeit there is a case for a serious overhaul, retraining and lie detector assisted integrity and attitude testing. In a six-month-long alcohol and drug-free, boot camp for cops. And mandatory for all personal regardless of previous service!

Where the lard can be trained and dieted off! Say based on seal or marine training to eliminate those not emotionally suited?

Policing has to be the hardest job on the planet and some candidates should never be tasked with frontline duties!

As for the knee on the neck. Sometimes the only option to restrain a violent criminal/ice addict? But only until the cuffs are on and the subject effectively calmed with a head bag? And treated with humanity as if one was dealing with someone's dad, mother, sister, son etc.

Rambo cops are not what we need, just professionals who want to serve, not dominate!
Alan B.

To put it bluntly here is footage of Binoy Karpark thrusting his perfectly reasonable "no police case" forward http://youtu.be/I_AOfzrQYV0

What do you think?

You can calm down folks.

It seems the Democrats have read the polls and found that this idiotic idea is not at all popular. So they've now set their publicity department (ie the mainstream media) the task of explaining that when they said they wanted to "defund the police" they didn't really mean they wanted to defund the police..or something.

In a week's time we'll be told by the media that no Democrat ever proposed such a thing and it was never a demand from the rioters either.

A week after that we'll be told its all a Trumpian conspiracy theory and how only stupid right-wingers think anyone ever mentioned it.

The problem with that analysis mhaze is that there is a civil war within the Democrat party between the Old Guard like Pelosi and the radicals like AOC. Remember when AOC was one of a bunch of morons who picketed Pelosi's office because they said that Pelosi was not radical enough? Of course the saner elements of the Democrats know how idiotic this proposal is, but the hysterical younger and stupid elements think it is a great idea.

They even believe in Socialism, fer Christ's sake.

LEGO,

Even AOC is running for cover on this one. It must be the dumbest of ideas if even she can see its flaws.

Looking at it seriously, each little town on a highway has a police
force. I think such a large number (18,000) of very small police forces
encourages corruption and mates running the town their way.
They have State police forces as well so perhaps the town ones could
be incorporated into each state force.
Larger organisation at the top might encourage more professionalism.

Police in the US are out of control.
Part of that problem is the US focus on foreign wars and surplus weapons being fed into police forces to militarise them.
Another part of the problem is an attitude where police always defend police in a gang mentality so that no good police will stand against bad behaviour from fellow police,
Finally a mentality where the only thing that matters is a show of force, treating the public any way they wish with their only aim to make it home from work, rather than put themselves in harms way to serve and safeguard the greater community.

That said Black Lives Matter and Antifa have political connections to the Democratic Party and military intelligence and the people who conduct overthrows of foreign leaders.

An easy case in question in Joe Biden and his son Hunter in Ukraine after that countries leader was overthrown.

Antifa is a global coloured revolution network.
Its the Muslim Brotherhood network rebranded and the dark hand that runs it lies within the US government itself.

Trump is not being given intelligence on these threats by Antifa as they are run from within the US itself by other members of government that oppose him.

The problem is that they want you to choose one side of the other.
They want you taking a position and infighting so they can push forward their own agendas.

The way to win is to not choose a side.

I read recently about how that old wives tale about all the things
that mobile phones can do to you, has been resurrected because the
number has been changed from 4G to 5G.
There are a number of ratbag ideas floating about, gender can be what
you like, anti vaccination, delete police forces, burn some books,
make some films unavailable. Etc etc etc, you have heard it all.
I have just twigged what is the cause of it all.

It is the poor education of our school teachers.
Particualy in science. Not having any common sense instruction that
illustrates that some ideas are impossible or impractical they are
unable to see that many ideas are ridiculous so they pass them onto
their students. Reports of results being boosted to get students into
further education can be understood otherwise those teachers would
have to be sacked.

This problem turns up everywhere, look at the number of people who
cannot raise and argument either way about energy generation.

It is no wonder that Australian education has such a poor rating.