I note OLO still has not posted my original post of evidence of Aboriginal citizens to Royal Banking Commission.

Says a lot.

Maybe, just maybe OLO might like to research all evidence, as we all taped via Royal Commission into Banking.

Or are we going down the "woke" track - which assists no one.

Come on OLO you are better than this.

To Bernie Masters.

The problem being, who exactly is an "aboriginal"?

The way the legislation giving numerous benefits and exemptions to "aborigines" from the common law was framed, was that anybody who could trace their ancestory back to an indigenous ancestor could legally claim to be "aboriginal". One of the people who successfully sued TV opinion presenter Andrew Bolt, (who publically opined that many "aboriginal" people claiming benefits were not aboriginal at all) stated that he was 1/64th "aboriginal". He declared, therefore, that he was aboriginal. The court actually bought that doozy, even though the man's own mother said that as far as she was concerned, she was not aboriginal at all.

In South Africa, the USA and even elsewhere in Africa, mixed race Africans are often called "coloured", and they are generally considered smarter and much better behaved than the pure breds.

As to the "aboriginal" middle class, left wing activists lately have been cheering on the emergence of "aboriginal" doctors. This came about because of the dire shortage of medical practitioners willing to work in remote areas to patch up the wounded after the "sit down money" cheques came in, and the booze appeared from somewhere. However the medical courses for these "aboriginal" doctors was so dumbed down that they are considered suitable only for treating indigenous people in remote areas. They are not allowed to treat the general population.

Same for "indiginous" tradesmen. My own apprentices have told me that while every race, religion and culture is represented in their trade classrooms,
"aboriginal" apprentices are instructed entirely in their own separate classes where it is suspected that the courses are dumbed down. These "aboriginal" tradesmen are then sent off to mining companies who through anti discrimination legislation requiring "positive discrimination" are presumably forced to hire them.

All of this nonsense and government intervention is based upon a self evidently false premise, that is, that all races are equal. If this is not so, why do "aboriginal" people plead special consideration for their circumstances, and demand that they be "more equal" than others?

LEGO,

I'm not going to buy into your straw man arguments. You'll need to do better than just suggested some anecdotal stories about Aboriginal doctors and Aboriginal tradies being given 2nd rate training. Some real evidence would be appreciated please.

Foxy, once again you haven’t answered the question. You keep quoting other peoples words regarding oppression and disadvantages. It’s as though you can’t think for yourself. All people have suffered oppression and trauma in their past. I’m talking about today, now! What is stopping any aboriginal person following their dream and managing their own life?, Thousands of them seem to have done so already. They have started up their own private businesses, got a university degree, become a sports star, become a media or music star. Some have returned to country and live on an outstation close to nature. So, what is actually the problem you are talking about?
LEGO, regarding the second class qualifications,I have to confirm that I have grandchildren who have been put into these courses, where whites are not allowed to enrol and the Certificate 3 that is handed out, after very little actual study and a lot of watching instructional videos, isn’t worth the paper it’s written on, which is why a lot of employers in the north ignore that qualification.
The training for aboriginal health workers is closed to white people but I worked with many of them in the NT and some were barely literate and couldn’t read instructions for the drugs they were handing out, nor understand the nursing books they were supposed to study. Once they were “ qualified” they were sent back to their communities and allowed to diagnose and treat sick people. I actually wrote a letter of complaint (twice!) to the NT minister for health regarding this issue as my grandchildren were being cared for by these workers and were at risk. And no, I’m not saying all aboriginal health workers are incompetent, many are excellent, just many of those from remote communities but thankfully,mfrom contact with them lately, the system seems to be Improving.

SAINTS. So many questions.
Firstly the Royal Commission into banking. These rip off schemes don’t just affect aboriginal people they also affect illiterate and semi illiterate whites as well, just that proportionally, more blacks are illiterate. The answer to the whole issue is to ensure aboriginal kids are better educated. I’m in a perfect position to understand the deficits in education for these kids. I have 25 aboriginal grandkids and those who were educated in remote communities are way behind their peers. I currently am caring for a 12 year old granddaughter who has come into town to do her secondary education and she is working at the same level as her 9 year old sister, who also lives with me. The problem is not with the teachers, it’s with the parents, in towns as well as communities. Parents aren’t ensuring their kid’s get a goods nights sleep and go to school everyday rested, and with a full belly. Parents don’t encourage their kids to do homework or read a book.
Kids are regularly exposed to violence, drugs and alcohol at home so how can anyone expect them to do well. As always, this does not apply to all aboriginal families, just a section, but those kids are the ones who will grow up dysfunctional and end up in prison.
As regards my comments about the violence that is legal in aboriginal culture, I didn’t say I supported that, I was simply pointing out to Foxy that these are acceptable under traditional law, and interestingly, the elders in Arnhem Land as asking to return to traditional law and have police removed from their communities. I am presuming they wish to be allowed to legally enforce the underaged, promised wife law that is currently illegal but still happens.
And no, I’m not expecting aboriginal people to go to job interviews dressed in possum skins, that was simply in response to Foxy’s constant claim that aboriginal people aren’t free to run their own lives.

Big Nana,

We've been over this so many times in the past
and I find it unbelievable that you're still
banging on about what's stopping Aboriginal people
from following their dreams.

One size does not fit all. And if you'd bothered to
read some of the links I've given you now and in the
past you would have had the answers to your question.

There are among Aboriginal people enormous variations
in experiences and circumstances. Such variations must
always have existed but they also reflect the extent to
which Aborigines have been subjected to external contact
and the very different responses different groups have
adopted to such contact.

Aboriginals living in more remote regions will have
different lives to those living in for some time in and
around cities or larger country towns.

The situation varies greatly in different areas and is
influenced by factors like - economic development, the
level of Aboriginal and non-Aboriginal population, the
degree of government intervention or non-intervention,
land rights, the outstation movement and the internal
dynamics of particular communities.

Social, economic and legal difficulties are common to
Aboriginal people wherever they live and there are
many similarities in Aboriginal responses to such
difficulties.

It is therefore important to be aware of varying legal
and other needs and demands of Aboriginals in remote areas
compared to those in urban and semi-urban areas and of the
consequent need for care and flexibility in formulating
recommendations for change.

However, you who claims to have lived amongst Aboriginal
people for so many decades should be well aware of
the disparity between Indigenous and non-Indigenous
Australians. And the inequality that includes -
1) shorter life expectancy,
2) Higher rates of infant mortality.
3) Poorer health.
4) Lower levels of education and employment.
5) Racism and Discrimination.
6) Cultural disconnection.

All of those things impact on a person's health, especially
mental health issues and can result in alcohol and
illicit drug use, family violence, and trauma.