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Why thinking makes it so: Donald Trump’s Obamagate fixation : Comments

By Binoy Kampmark, published 25/5/2020

Obama had, supposedly, committed 'the biggest political crime in American history, by far', one that made 'Watergate look small-time'.

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Hmmmmm...Angosturense…. so Obama and Clinton did no wrong with their ' work in Libya, Syria, Egypt.... and their encouragement of the Muslim Brotherhood and growth of ISIS. Glad you at least recognise the failings of the oft eulogised Kennedy Clan though! Kennedy took the US in for votes and Nixon brought them out!

Paul, stop believing the gang at CNN, its bad for mental health!
Posted by Alison Jane, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 9:31:52 AM
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SR,

Pakman is " the most forensic of political commentators."??

Oh dear SR you really are scrapping the bottom of the barrel here aren't you?

Personally, if I was going to rely on someone to tell me what to think, I wouldn't rely on someone who fell HL&S for the Mueller investigation. But if you just want to find someone who'll tell you what you want to hear, then you're spot on.

"Ho hum."

Yes, as I said, its amazing (and amusing) to see all those who bought the Russia claims based on zero evidence, suddenly decide that, in the face of overwhelming evidence, there's nothing of importance to see.

There's a compilation video around showing all the times that the anti-Trump media (ie all of it) asserted that the walls were closing in on Trump. As it turned out, there were no walls. But that's another story.
Today we hear from Nunes that indictments are being prepared and that the Mueller team are being investigated. The walls are closing in. Given that they ran a 22month investigation despite knowing after one month that there was no evidence of Trump collusion with Russia, that seems reasonable.

I still don't think they'll get Obama but one can hope. One wag suggested that Trump preemptively pardon Obama for his sins. Now that'd be fun.
Posted by mhaze, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 12:48:50 PM
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Hi Alison Jane,

I don't take a lot of interest in American politics, with a state controlled by either the Tweedledum crazies or the Tweedlevendummer jerk offs. The one party state, I don't buy the notation there is any substantive difference between the two mobs. With a pop of 330 million I would hope they could offer up better candidates, at one stage Colonial Sanders older bro was a possibility, now what does that tell you? I'll give you my opinion of the men who have been in the White joint in my adult lifetime.

Lyndon Johnson..John Wayne in the white house.
Richard Nixon..Al Capone in the white house.
Gerald Ford..a short but smelly fart.
Jimmy Carter..as a peanut, they should have turned him into butter.
Ronald Reagan..bedtime for bozo.
George Bush..half wit
Bill Clinton..wanted the head job.
George W Bush.. didn't inherit any wit from old man, a Fail Wit.
Barack Obama..oh, well, no, not great.
Donald Trump..Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

I thought Abraham Lincoln was considered the great one until I read a book about him. He was as loony as the rest of them.

Are you an American?
Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 28 May 2020 3:58:30 AM
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Dear mhaze,

You write;

“Yes, as I said, its amazing (and amusing) to see all those who bought the Russia claims based on zero evidence, suddenly decide that, in the face of overwhelming evidence, there's nothing of importance to see.”

What?

There is ample evidence to show the Russians were desperate to get Trump in.

There is ample evidence to show that Trump associates worked with Russians to that end.

There was not enough evidence that Trump directly directed those associates to get Republican members of congress to flip their partisan support for him.

That is it.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Thursday, 28 May 2020 7:45:42 PM
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SR,

"There is ample evidence to show the Russians were desperate to get Trump in."

Such as? Evidence for such an outlandish claim would be good, and more than a little funny.
Did you miss the revelation that Clapper hide evidence that the Russians were hopeful that Hill would win?

"There is ample evidence to show that Trump associates worked with Russians to that end."

Rubbish. Utter rubbish. Evidence? And if you have evidence then send it to that nice Mr Mueller who spent 22 months not finding it.

"There was not enough evidence that Trump directly directed those associates to get Republican members of congress to flip their partisan support for him."

I have no idea what that means. I suspect that makes two of us.
Posted by mhaze, Thursday, 28 May 2020 8:22:19 PM
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There is rioting in the streets of the Antichrist, Trumps America! One hundred thousand dead! The cops are killing the blacks! The end is nigh!

Donald...Fact check that one on Twitter!
Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 28 May 2020 9:58:40 PM
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