Like the Russiagate scandal that wasn't?

If the democrats have been using the public servants to pursue a partisan witch hunt, then those responsible need to face the consequences.

SM,

And what's sauce for the goose ......

Joe

Most readers probably haven't looked into water gate (other than watching the History documentary "All the presidents men"!). Nixon was done for trying to cover up something.

Obama, Biden, Clinton, Rice et al have been shown to be actually abusing power and FBI/DOJ resource to steal the election from Trump... but then they believe that Bill was a choir boy, the Kennedy's were Saints and that Obama's line in the sand was real!

"Gee Wiz Batman, when did Gotham City become so corrupt!?"

Dear Allison Jane,

You write;

"Obama, Biden, Clinton, Rice et al have been shown to be actually abusing power and FBI/DOJ resource to steal the election from Trump"

No they demonstrably were not. Don't be so silly. Just because Trump is desperately trying to deflect from his utter incompetence in handling the virus doesn't mean we all have to drink to coolaid.

Got a Youtube link the other day featuring Melania Trump. It remarked on the blatant & deliberate neglecting of her by the Media. Obviously the femmo Nazis & Gay weirdos are jealous of her good looks & popularity !
Donald Trump is not fixated by Obama, he's merely telling what the Leftist weirdo media doesn't want to hear & is too crap-scared to print. They'll stop at nothing to sabotage anything that a conservative Politician does, fearing it might actually be good for the Nation !
The Leftist progressive regressors are the most evil outfit yet !

Individual,

Speaking of the Trump Swamp, with his kids and in-laws and cronies being put into top positions - do you think it will ever be possible to have a clean and efficient administration in the US ? How long might it take a decent and honourable president to clean all that crap out ?

As you would know up there, when you're wading through a swamp, be careful of the pot-holes.

Joe

Loudmouth2,
Trump Swamp ? Well, at least he gets rid of non-performers unlike in our Public Service & his !
You can't seriously expect someone with such massive sabotage as is aimed at Conservatives to do better than they do ?
Ivanka will be the first female POTUS & she'll be good at it ! I just hope Hilary & Nancy live long enough to get eaten up by jealousy !

Well, you can, as they say, fool some of the people all of the time! And Donald has an election to win to complete his master, if interrupted, plan?

Given he has always been able to point the, don't look at me, finger elsewhere, why not continue to do so? Has he ever been held to account for anything he did? Well?

I'll give the President credit where due and congratulations for finally lifting the insane prohibition on thorium R+D!

TIME FOR US TO FOLLOW SUIT AND HIS LEAD!
Alan B.

brothers in arms. The globalist swamp. How the swamp hate being found out. The lying liberal left have to move on pretending nothing to see after pushing the Russian delusion for nearly 3 years. They have about as much credibility as paedophile priests.

AJ, SR,

Given that after 2 years and $ms the FBI could find nothing to demonstrate that Trump had colluded with the Russians to influence the election, the question is how did this farce start, and who was behind it. Giving false and misleading information to the FBI has always been a criminal offense.

All the clues point to the "dossier" compiled by the Democrats and given to the FBI after Clinton's loss in 2016 as being the foundation of this conspiracy theory. That those responsible have got off scot free is a travesty of justice, and the question is why the FBI is not pursuing this on their own.

Following the paper trail should not be difficult, and the culprits need to be exposed preferably before the next election.

Shadow Minister, Runner and individual.. what can I say its going to be fun when the paper trail is exposed and I look forward to Steel-red-nuts grinding with anger as Hillary, Obama, Biden et al take that walk of shame, to those metaphorical gallows for crimes against the US constitution!

No evidence, hmmmm the investigation is only underway, Comey has been exposed, Biden has lied about Flynn " outing", The Dems paid for the " dossier form the ex MI6 operative... Yes no evidence of Trump crime, but of course Comey, Clapper et al didn't even glance towards the Democrats activities during the now 3 year long farce. Oh so many things, … can't wait for Hollywood to do a " All the Presidents Democrat luvies" movie..

Think of the material we have had so far,....Attorney Generals 'family meeting' with Bill C in the hanger within their private jets; Deep throat and the self wiping servers; spontaneous self destructing mobiles and 30,00 emails; the sex scandals the NY Times is sitting on!; The Weinstein connection, The Espstein conspiracies and what did happen when Bill C came to dinner with Prince Andrew et al.... The material would be enough for a conservative version of JK Rowlings to make a massive series of stories to match Harry Potter!

No shame from our own abc who sent Sarah Ferguson on a junket of a lifestyle to continue to push the Russian delusion narrative. She spoke with such 'conviction' only to show herself to be either totally naive or stupid. Don't hold your breath for a correction from the lying marxist abc.

That there was corruption within the Obama administration to spy on political rivals and attempt to overturn an election is now fairly clear.

That Obama was aware of at least part of the spying is clear following the revelations about the 5/1/17 White House confab.

Whether there'll ever be sufficient evidence to pin this in whole or part on Obama is doubtful. The Deep State and the mainstream media look after their own and the wagons are already circled. That's not to say that Burr/Durham won't unearth a Liddy type who might be prepared to tell it all rather than suffer a long jail sentence. But such a person would have to ponder whether they'd want to become another Epstein.

Why they went after Flynn still intrigues me. We know he was primed to pull the whole Iran deal apart - perhaps there's still more corruption there to be unwound.

But I'd prefer to await the results of the Burr/Durham investigations. Purportedly there is much more to come from that quarter although, unlike the Mueller 'probe', very little has been leaked.

After all that, its really quite amusing to watch those who fell hook, line and sinker for the Russian election interference story as well as the Trump as Putin's puppet trope and the Burisma rubbish, based, it has to be said, on minimal and, ultimately, zero evidence, suddenly now decide that unless there's a smoking gun there's nothing to see.

Hypocrisy abounds.

Once the Whitehouse is no longer able to block investigations, withhold evidence or critical witnesses? The truth will out!

And all culpable will need to answer to those who employ them, the American people! Regardless of whether democrat or republican or other!

And will happen quite soon! As the partisans ( real Americans) stand up for their homeland and democratic values worth fighting/sacrificing for!
Alan B.

Despite the TDS it will be interesting to see if Cuomo is ever held accountable for sending so many Covid patients to old people's homes resulting in thousands of death. Yep he believed the 'experts' that their would not be enough beds, masks etc in the hospitals. When Trump delivered with spades with beds, masks etc, he still made the decision and made it against law for nursing homes to reject the infected patients. So we had doctors and nurses with no one to look after while lowly paid health care workers in old people's homes bearing the load. Of course we hear nothing from the truth hating lying liberal media on this. They are still busy wiping their records of lies and deceit pushing then Russian/Ukraine delusion. But then again the democrats are so pro life now at least according to Joe and co.

This seems to go against what the pro Obama crowd says !

https://eur06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fembed%2F4ISTbT-R9hs&data=02%7C01%7C%7C657e1c5bd1a74eefceed08d7ff3304be%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637258466889124025&sdata=faaB4jrS9a807PdSzEb6rSZGtoOAuc2VnypxnN5mGBk%3D&reserved=0

That that is funny... truly, unlike the communist luvie homage between the "Dustyesky choir" from Mullimbimbie by arts luvies tribute to what they themselves is a tribute to the "Australian Broadcasting Collective".. that will be on at 8pm via "their scary ABC" on Australian story.

Sorry must put some logs on the fire, my poor old senile tarty bones can't cope with the coldest, wettest, snowyist May on records around the world... must be something to do with solar weather, geosphere magna-movements or just mother nature showing its feed up with all this human Carbon Cycle management Hubris stuff. Pleae excuse my typos... its just so cold for my arthritic claws!

Thank you guys... ist nice to know sane people are ou there

Dear Shadow Minister,

You say; “Given that after 2 years and $ms the FBI could find nothing to demonstrate that Trump had colluded with the Russians to influence the election, the question is how did this farce start, and who was behind it. Giving false and misleading information to the FBI has always been a criminal offense.”

This is the litany of crooks Meuller put behind bars. Hardly nothing to show for it is it.

Michael Cohen 
Trump’s former personal lawyer and fixer pleaded guilty in November 2018 to lying to Congress about a proposed real-estate deal in Moscow. He also pleaded guilty in August 2018 to charges related to making hush money payments to two women who claimed to have had sex with Trump. Cohen was sentenced in December 2018 to three years in prison.
 
Paul Manafort 
Trump’s former campaign chairman was convicted in August of tax and bank charges. He also pleaded guilty in September to conspiracy to commit money laundering, tax fraud and failing to register to represent foreign interests, and to obstruction of justice. Manafort was sentenced to 7.5 years in prison.

Rick Gates 
Gates worked for Manafort before and during the campaign and also headed Trump’s inaugural committee. He pleaded guilty in February 2018 to conspiracy and lying to FBI agents and prosecutors. He cooperated with Mueller and awaits sentencing.

Konstantin Kilimnik 
Kilimnik is an alleged Russian spy who worked with Manafort and Gates in Kiev. He was indicted in June 2018 on charges of conspiracy to obstruct justice.

Cont..

Alex van der Zwaan 
Dutch attorney Alex van der Zwaan pleaded guilty in February 2018 to lying to FBI agents about his work for Manafort and Gates. He served 30 days in prison and was fined $20,000.

Richard Pinedo
Pinedo pleaded guilty in February 2018 to identity fraud for trading in bank account numbers from stolen identities that were then used by the Russians. Pinedo was sentenced to six months in prison and ordered to complete 100 hours of community service.

12 Russian nationals tied to hacking
The twelve Russians were indicted in July 2018 on charges related to a conspiracy to hack Democratic computers with the goal of influencing the 2016 election. Charges included aggravated identity theft and money laundering.

Internet Research Agency
Thirteen Russian nationals and three entities, including the Internet Research Agency, were indicted in February 2018 with conspiracy to defraud the U.S. for interfering with the election. Three were charged with conspiracy to commit wire and bank fraud. Five were charged with aggravated identity theft.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/03/25/muellers-russia-report-special-counsel-indictments-charges/3266050002/

Trump got away by the skin of his lying teeth. Guily of sin though.

Dear mhaze,

You write; "That there was corruption within the Obama administration to spy on political rivals and attempt to overturn an election is now fairly clear."

No it isn't at all so why claim it?

"No it isn't at all [clear that corruption occurred in the Obama WH] so why claim it?"

Well it probably isn't clear to anyone clueless enough to list all the people indicted by Mueller's controllers but to those of us who aren't blinded by TDs, clarity is apparent.

Of those indicted none, other than the Russians, were related to election interference.
And the Russians were indicted on the assumption that Mueller would never have to prove his case.
When one of the Russians actually decided to defend themselves in a US court, Mueller's team couldn't drop the indictment fast enough.
Oh, and for the clueless, its now apparent that the whole yarn about the Russians hacking the DNC server has fallen apart since Crowdstrike admitted that they didn't actually have any evidence of that.

Anyone even tangentially acquainted with the facts now knows that there isn't and never was any evidence of Trump-Russian cooperation in regards to the election. That the whole story was concocted in an attempt to overthrow an elected government.

As to the drip-drip of damning data about the shenanigans in the Obama WH, the next shoe to drop will be the investigation into Sullivan's attempts to override the DOJ dropping the Flynn prosecution.

But the real fun will be the release of Durham's findings.

SR,

So after a 2yr multi $m investigation they found nothing on collusion, but caught a few small fry mostly on completely unrelated issues.

It would be like having the RC into child abuse finding zero abuse but claiming it was a success for issuing 1000s of parking tickets.

The Ukraine investigation was also a wildly overhyped bust. And now I believe that Joe Biden has been named in a criminal probe into corruption in Ukraine?

Dear mhaze,

You write; "Well it probably isn't clear to anyone clueless enough to list all the people indicted by Mueller's controllers but to those of us who aren't blinded by TDs, clarity is apparent."

No it isn't so why claim it. Even the most forensic of political commentators are utterly bemused by this idiocy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsP7GEdI-zo

Just another of Trump's cowardly distractions.

Ho hum.

Obama was the most innocent of all the former presidents since the drunken war criminal woodrow wilson followed by rosenwelt (a) roosevelt, truman, eisenhauer (a) eisenhower, kennedy. johnson, ford, carter, reagan, clinton and bush father and jr. all aof them to be brought to the military court in Nuremberg and hanged to death because of crimes agains the humanity and genocide. Each of them were worst than Hitler and Stalin together

A sad and sobering day for America, as their coronavirus death toll passes 100,000. Unfortunately Donald Trump is trading the lives oh his fellow citizens for the profits of Corporate America.

Hmmmmm...Angosturense…. so Obama and Clinton did no wrong with their ' work in Libya, Syria, Egypt.... and their encouragement of the Muslim Brotherhood and growth of ISIS. Glad you at least recognise the failings of the oft eulogised Kennedy Clan though! Kennedy took the US in for votes and Nixon brought them out!

Paul, stop believing the gang at CNN, its bad for mental health!

SR,

Pakman is " the most forensic of political commentators."??

Oh dear SR you really are scrapping the bottom of the barrel here aren't you?

Personally, if I was going to rely on someone to tell me what to think, I wouldn't rely on someone who fell HL&S for the Mueller investigation. But if you just want to find someone who'll tell you what you want to hear, then you're spot on.

"Ho hum."

Yes, as I said, its amazing (and amusing) to see all those who bought the Russia claims based on zero evidence, suddenly decide that, in the face of overwhelming evidence, there's nothing of importance to see.

There's a compilation video around showing all the times that the anti-Trump media (ie all of it) asserted that the walls were closing in on Trump. As it turned out, there were no walls. But that's another story.
Today we hear from Nunes that indictments are being prepared and that the Mueller team are being investigated. The walls are closing in. Given that they ran a 22month investigation despite knowing after one month that there was no evidence of Trump collusion with Russia, that seems reasonable.

I still don't think they'll get Obama but one can hope. One wag suggested that Trump preemptively pardon Obama for his sins. Now that'd be fun.

Hi Alison Jane,

I don't take a lot of interest in American politics, with a state controlled by either the Tweedledum crazies or the Tweedlevendummer jerk offs. The one party state, I don't buy the notation there is any substantive difference between the two mobs. With a pop of 330 million I would hope they could offer up better candidates, at one stage Colonial Sanders older bro was a possibility, now what does that tell you? I'll give you my opinion of the men who have been in the White joint in my adult lifetime.

Lyndon Johnson..John Wayne in the white house.
Richard Nixon..Al Capone in the white house.
Gerald Ford..a short but smelly fart.
Jimmy Carter..as a peanut, they should have turned him into butter.
Ronald Reagan..bedtime for bozo.
George Bush..half wit
Bill Clinton..wanted the head job.
George W Bush.. didn't inherit any wit from old man, a Fail Wit.
Barack Obama..oh, well, no, not great.
Donald Trump..Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

I thought Abraham Lincoln was considered the great one until I read a book about him. He was as loony as the rest of them.

Are you an American?

Dear mhaze,

You write;

“Yes, as I said, its amazing (and amusing) to see all those who bought the Russia claims based on zero evidence, suddenly decide that, in the face of overwhelming evidence, there's nothing of importance to see.”

What?

There is ample evidence to show the Russians were desperate to get Trump in.

There is ample evidence to show that Trump associates worked with Russians to that end.

There was not enough evidence that Trump directly directed those associates to get Republican members of congress to flip their partisan support for him.

That is it.

SR,

"There is ample evidence to show the Russians were desperate to get Trump in."

Such as? Evidence for such an outlandish claim would be good, and more than a little funny.
Did you miss the revelation that Clapper hide evidence that the Russians were hopeful that Hill would win?

"There is ample evidence to show that Trump associates worked with Russians to that end."

Rubbish. Utter rubbish. Evidence? And if you have evidence then send it to that nice Mr Mueller who spent 22 months not finding it.

"There was not enough evidence that Trump directly directed those associates to get Republican members of congress to flip their partisan support for him."

I have no idea what that means. I suspect that makes two of us.

There is rioting in the streets of the Antichrist, Trumps America! One hundred thousand dead! The cops are killing the blacks! The end is nigh!

Donald...Fact check that one on Twitter!

SR,

This time you are talking pure bollocks. Mueller was clear that there was no connection between the Trump campaign and the Russians. That the Russians spent roughly $140k on facebook ads amongst nearly $1bn of election ads is at best a little mischief.