thinkabit,

It's easy to see you know your stuff.

Don't tangle with OzSpen and Not_Now.Soon because neither is searching for the Truth; they are only looking for converts.

thinkabit,

<< I hope you realise that the detailed observation and study of every single one of "wonders" that you listed (eg: your knee, body tissue, nerves etc) is what helps convince scientists that the theory of evolution is an accurate description of how life evolved on Earth.>>

Non-Christian biologist, Dr Michael Denton, dares to disagree with you and his research led to his writing: Evolution: A Theory in Crisis (Burnett Books 1985), http://www.amazon.com/Evolution-Theory-Crisis-Michael-Denton/dp/091756152X

Thirty years later in 2016 he released: Evolution: Still a Theory in Crisis (Discovery Institute 2016), http://www.discovery.org/b/still-a-theory-in-crisis/

This professional researcher of evolution confounds your view that evolutionary science confirms how human life evolved on earth.

Could your world view be somewhat blinkered?

Dear Ozpen,

Again with the fallacious use of logical fallacies.

By its very definition Ad Homenim is an attack on the PERSON not the ARGUMENT. I directly spoke to NNS's argument calling it twaddle and then explicitly stating the reasons why.

Please heed my repeated advice and go and more fully appraise yourself of when to correctly apply the logical fallacies charge. You are a long way off that at the moment.

It's Ok OzSpen, it's a challenge, not an attack. Though I'd wish there was more respect then "twaddle." If Steele wants more info. I can oblige him this request.

To Steele Redux.

Who do I accept as Christian and who do I not? It's not distinctive based on denomination. Including Catholicism, Mormonism, or Jehovah Witnesses. There are things I look at to question if someone really is a Christian or not, but in the end it's up to God not me. That said just because I think Catholics are also Christians does not mean I believe everything in Catholic theology. The same goes with Mormons and with Jehovah Witness stuff. Added to those two groups though are a few warnings I've heard on each.

But bottom line one of the base elements for being a Christian is to trust in Jesus and believe in Him. If it's about knowledge base, then we need to be scholars. If it's based on being good enough, then we all need to be saints, and removes the need to be saved from sin in the first place. So while there are things to consider if they are Christian or not, the bottom line is do they believe in Jesus.

Now a question for you. What's you're point? You make it sound like I'm avoiding a crucial point or something, when what you said originally was "it'd be interesting to know..." After talking on a completely different line of thought in the same comment.

Or are you just looking for something to accuse me of, and nothing to do with the topics presented or the perspectives already brought up? When I said you have no argument against the ad hominem thing, this shows I'm right. OzSpen can say it's a fault of yours as much as he wants, because it's what you do. Consistently without fail. If that critism bothers you, do something about it by not doing it anymore.

Mr Opinion,

<<Don't tangle with OzSpen and Not_Now.Soon because neither is searching for the Truth; they are only looking for converts.>>

This is a blatantly false statement. The Christian faith is not only a search for the Truth, but it is a promotion of Jesus Christ who said, 'I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me' (John 14:6), http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Jn+14%3A6&version=NIVUK

In addition, the Christian view of truth, which I support, is aletheia, i.e. that which conforms with reality. It refers to that which is true in any matter under consideration. It means truly, in truth, according to truth, of a truth, in reality, in fact, and certainly.

In relation to Christianity, it refers to the truth regarding God and the implementation of his purposes through Christ's life, death and resurrection.

I'm on OLO as a promoter of truth, Christian truth and the truth of reality of what’s around me. I don't need to consider searching for the Truth because I've found Him in Jesus Christ. Until your heart is softened towards God, I don't expect you to understand what I've written in this post.

Let's get back to the subject of this thread: Why does the good God allow Covid-19? He has given us reasons:

(1) To awaken us to our spiritual need for Him, 'Then Jesus said, “Come to me, all of you who are weary and carry heavy burdens, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you. Let me teach you, because I am humble and gentle at heart, and you will find rest for your souls' (Matthew 11:28-29), http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+11%3A28-29&version=NLT.

(2) With the death toll around the world from this virus, we need the truth about where we will be one minute after our last breath: 'Just as each person is destined to die once and after that comes judgment' (Hebrews 9:27), http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Heb+9%3A27&version=NLT

(3) The truth is God can send suffering and calamity for our punishment (e.g. Noah's flood, Genesis 6-9).

OzSpen,

You are not interested in looking for truths. You are only interested in shaping people's minds to your religious belief system. You feed on converts just like the Wuhan Bat Soup Virus feeds on the human lung.

I love the three points you finished with above: the all-knowing, all-caring, all-powerful God that you hold so dear and your only hope of salvation. And the reason I love it is because David Hume has demonstrated successfully that therein lies the fallacy of a justifiable belief in God. I assume you know how the argument goes and if you disagree with it please enlighten me on your premises for doing so.

If there is a God in our Universe (probably the same for all of the other universes) it will be that simple substance we call Water.