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Flattening the curve or just muddling on? : Comments

By Graham Young, published 22/4/2020

While they are still talking about 'flattening the curve' they appear to want to eliminate new infections before they start relaxing restrictions, and that's a confusing message.

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TTBN I’m the same age as you and likewise have health issues 24/7 but where we differ is that I, like many other grandmothers in Australia have the full time care of grandchildren. 3 of them. So, my death would cause unnecessary trauma to quite a few people. And there are thousands of grandmothers doing the same job as me.
And whilst the virus is apparently not as fatal in young people, it does cause lung damage in serious cases, also kidney failure, so we need to keep these things in mind.
The other issue is the closure of schools. I can’t understand how anyone can advocate for kids to return to school whilst keeping social isolation rules in place. Kids may not get very sick from this disease but they make wonderful little carriers and there is absolutely no point in trying to reduce the rate of infection in adults whilst our children are gaily spreading the disease throughout all sections of the community.
I agree we should slowly relax some rules and try for a low rate of infection amongst the population but it will get out of control if kids go back to school.
Posted by Big Nana, Wednesday, 22 April 2020 11:23:49 AM
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Bravo Big Nana, Bravo and well said.

I too am a grandmother with health issues 24/7 and
I fully agree with the points you've raised.
I also took car of four grand-children. Although
I miss them greatly, I am relieved that I'm not seeing
them currently.

Also it's not just old people that will be affected by
this virus. It does not distinguish between people.
There are those in our communities who do suffer
respiratory problems, whose immune systems are not what
they should be and who would not survive if they got
attacked by this virus.

I am pleased that our government is listening to the
medical experts and following their advice. I am glad
and lucky to be living in this country.
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 22 April 2020 11:40:24 AM
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Alan B, sorry "Maybe" is just a nonsense! It enables people to say any made up facts they like. Right up there with "If it saves one life". Think Alan, this virus is just a strand of dna in a protein envelope. No brain, no heart, no eyes, no ears and no blood. It just wants to keep on and it is not in its interest to kill it's host. More people were killed by flu and we have now watching our so called leaders losing their collective minds to a boogeyman. We live and we die as does all the other life forms. This lock down is destroying our jobs and our freedom!
Not the first time that some crazy notion has been able to slew all intelligence and common sense from our leaders and to our detriment. The uncalled in the MSM revolts in the US and Europe are not only not reported but the information is being suppressed. I am surprised a rational person like you has been well and truly had!
Posted by JBowyer, Wednesday, 22 April 2020 11:53:01 AM
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Those pretending to be concerned about our young folk/their future, need to take a good, long hard look at themselves their actions/evocations/motives!

if they're genuinely concerned!? Stop promoting all fossil-fueled energy options/withdraw the self-imposed prohibition on nuclear energy! Sign us up as a repository for the world's stockpile of nuclear waste/get busy with R+D on thorium SMR, MSR! As factory-built modules, we could export to the world or even small island nations currently powered by diesel or liquified NG!

Our own mas produced, factory-built, thorium reactors will produce copious quantities of, miracle cancer cure, alpha particle, bismuth 213.

Allow several dozen day clinics to be set up in remote outback locations, for the massive, medical tourist rade that would follow!

Thereby ensuring our domestic airlines, motel and hotel operations had a steady stream of money spending tourists coming to these shores as invited patients!

Who'd be automatically quarantined insitu, at their own expense/taken by ambulance to and from the treating day clinics in our economically decimated outback!

Or we could go back to the business as usual where the robber barons control everything/everyone/the pace of their preferred, self-serving, same old, same old, fossil-fueled economy!?

Along with their business as usual price gouging, tax evasion/avoidance, asset stipping/profit repatriation! If the cap fits?

Recovery?

Business as usual, same old won't achieve it or prevent a far worse and impending catastrophe than the black death or its potential modern equivalent, covid-19! Manifesting as a new/far deadlier strain?

Or worse, runaway unstoppable, catastrophic climate change!

You decide, I've argued for all the above, save covid-19, until I'm black in the face. Put us back to work! Done with all the excuses/blame-shifting!

Don't just do something, stand there wringing the hands?

Yes, it'll cost! But if done as outlined, make every dollar invested, do the work of seven or more/return around 2.5 for every dollar invested? N.B. The longer you prevaricate, the costly it gets!

Step up to the plate/challenge! And Lead us outta here! You've the recipe!

Take care and stay safe.
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Wednesday, 22 April 2020 12:06:32 PM
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Yep...I read this article; and the comment.

They all pretty much sum-up the situation. There are many ways to skin a cat!

Who knows? But one thing is for sure, WHO doesn't.

Time will tell.

Dan
Posted by diver dan, Wednesday, 22 April 2020 12:16:47 PM
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I’d be interested to know how many people have died since we went into lockdown from things like car accidents, cancer, heart disease and say choking on chocolate cake?

I am 53 and have health issues that well and truly put me in the highest vulnerable category however, the reaction to Covid19 by governments is ridiculous. We have lost our economy, freedoms, and any sense of rational thought.

There is clinical peer reviewed evidence this virus can be effectively treated a number of ways, cheap, readily available malaria medication, readily available HIV antivirals, intravenous ozone therapy and the use of CPAP oxygen treatment. There is also clear clinical evidence many patients are being killed by the use of ventilators as they are only effective in pneumonia like cases, of which Covid19 is not.

We (as in the government and the current crop of unqualified health advisers) are not listening to the experts in the field of Coronavirus nor the doctors at the coal face calling for other treatments that have been clinically shown they can treat this virus.

249 mutations reported from just 9 human Coronavirus samples, therefore a vaccine is a long, long way off. Get back to work ASAP or there will be nothing left to go back to soon.

I will take care of my own isolation and worry about re entering society when I choose to do so.

Risk and reward or no risk and disaster, it’s not a hard choice really!
Galen
Posted by Galen, Wednesday, 22 April 2020 12:27:08 PM
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