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Bushfires and climate change : Comments

By Don Aitkin, published 17/1/2020

More houses have been lost than ever before, but then there are more people than we have ever had before, five times as many as we had a century ago.

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My next OLO piece i will submit is on why we are so different from the UK on the issue.

i will ty and discuss whether Australia has any legitimate excuses for its big increase in greenhouse gas emissions since 1990.

i suspect rthere are some plausible reasons.

But go Boris.

https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2020/01/16/business/bc-eu-britain-carney.html
Posted by Chris Lewis, Friday, 17 January 2020 12:10:36 PM
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A technique used by the Turku University group was Fourier Analysis.
My guess is they put the whole temperature record as available in to
the program. Fourier Analysis is used frequently in radio systems to
dig signals out of very noisy inputs. Your Wifi uses it.
It would be interesting to see a graph of its output.

It could tell us if the temperature has risen as a sinewave or a pulse
squarish waveform. That would clearly define whether it is natural or
man made by burning fossil fuels.

I have only just thought of this, so it is surprising no one has
already tried it. Perhaps the lack of reliable readings going back
far enough is a problem.
Posted by Bazz, Friday, 17 January 2020 12:41:21 PM
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Forget climate change in relation to bushfires; the climate change theory is just a cop out for people who refuse to take responsibility: state premiers and ministers who have done nothing about land management, and the state public servants who feed them lies. Local government is also a major villain, chockablock as it is with bored housewives, bored Green housewives, Green male councillors practising for a run at real politics, and mayors enamoured with the robes and totally unjustified monetary allowances.

And, behind all the stupidity and uselessness of the above, is the disgusting, criminality of Green ideology.

And although the Prime Minister has been scurrilously lambasted for things that he has no responsibility for, the federal government is rewarding the incompetence and failure of the states by doling out $10 million on a DC 10, which is having dubious effects on firefighting, plus millions more handed out for spending on fire affected communities.

The money would have been better spent on paying the states to see that the communities were not so badly affected in the first place.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 17 January 2020 1:49:43 PM
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The papers by the Turku & Kobe Uni have been widely attacked quite
viciously by some commentators. Its maths is way above my level but
perhaps Don may find it easy.

J. Kauppenin & P. Maimi
Kauppenin was an expert reviewer with IPCC report AR5.

Abstract.In this paper we will prove that GCM-models used in IPCC reportAR5 fail to calculate the influences of the low cloud cover changes on the globaltemperature. That is why those models give a very small natural temperaturechange leaving a very large change for the contribution of the green housegases in the observed temperature. This is the reason why IPCC has to use avery large sensitivity to compensate a too small natural component. Furtherthey have to leave out the strong negative feedback due to the clouds in orderto magnify the sensitivity. In addition, this paper proves that the changes inthe low cloud cover fraction practically control the global temperature.

The paper is available at http://arxiv.org/abs/1907.00165v1
Posted by Bazz, Friday, 17 January 2020 1:52:56 PM
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A Victorian enquiry has found the following about water bombing:

"There are practical constraints on using a very large air tanker in Victoria. Because of the weight and size of the DC-10, Avalon Airport (near Geelong) and Melbourne Airport (the main airport in Melbourne) are the only suitable air bases from which the aircraft can operate. The DC-10 requires a smaller lead plane to fly ahead and provide assessments before aerial firefighting. The DC-10 might also have limitations during poor weather. Once airborne, the aircraft must discharge its load of up to $45,000 worth of aerial suppressant to enable a safe landing. This has economic and environmental costs if the suppressant is not used on the fire and needs to be jettisoned.

The Commission notes that a number of witnesses were ambivalent about the very large air tanker."
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 17 January 2020 1:57:24 PM
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and this is a headline in SMH today

Climate policy
'Drought-breaking rain likely to cause greenhouse emissions to rise'

boo hoo hoo. Can anyone be more ungrateful and blind.
Posted by runner, Friday, 17 January 2020 2:25:54 PM
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