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Bushfires and climate change : Comments

By Don Aitkin, published 17/1/2020

More houses have been lost than ever before, but then there are more people than we have ever had before, five times as many as we had a century ago.

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https://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/

this is hardly a left wing conspiracy.
Posted by Chris Lewis, Friday, 17 January 2020 10:46:57 AM
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Hot days and bush fire go hand in hand.

Hotter days than recently, you betcha:-

1924 - Marble Bar had 160 days in a row over 38C.
There have been many days in Australia over 50C. 
1828 Charles Sturt 53C
1845 Thomas Mitchell 53C
1878 Walgett 52.3C
1889 Cloncurry 53C
1896 Geraldton 51.7C
1896 Euston 51.6C
1901 Longreach 51.7
1901 Coolgardie 51.1C
1906 Mildura 50.8C
1909 Bourke 51.7C
1960 Oodnadatta 50.7C
1960 Oodnadatta 50.3C
1998 Mardie 50.5C
Check archives. Stop the misinformation
Galen
Posted by Galen, Friday, 17 January 2020 11:01:25 AM
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Thank you Don. In a time when both SBS and the ABC see fit to loudly beat the "global warming", "human induced climate change" hysterically in every evenings News services, it is essential that a saner, honest and more balanced view be presented.
A point that I have been raising where possible is that none of our National Parks, Nature and Forestry Reserves are truly pristine. All have been used as grazing areas prior to gazettal. All of the natural balance forces have been either removed or subjugated by managment policies formulated far from the actual fields. All contain feral weeds and animals to greater and lesser extents. Control of a herd of 100 head of cattle is easier than a raging bushfire and cause less damage in a month than a bushfire does in a day.
A point in public perception was illustrated on the news when Anthony Albaneze visited Nimbin where a local woman confronted him and was yelling very loudly into his face "What are you doing about the bushfires?"
She was ignoring the reality that the first responsibility, as you demonstrated, lies with the land owners and residents. The various levels of Government can only protect the stupid from themselves so far and in turn do need protecting from themselves.
Posted by Jay Cee Ess, Friday, 17 January 2020 11:20:34 AM
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Starting from the last comment backward. So C Lewis first Great so Chris if scientists published a paper on the last 20 years of that showed the net energy balance of the globe was falling and that this matched the reduction in global ocean temperatures using NASA satellite data (covers the whole globe, unlike spot measurements in every growing cities), would you believe them?

Next Loudmoutt2 (can't believe someone likes the name that much they must accept 2 as a postscript, lots of others nouns in the dictionary, mate). Official certified temps before 1909 might not be available in Australia, but non BOM and others world wide do, at it has been hotter before then and this year.

Alan B, most novel contribution in your comment is a new term for deniers. Luv it, realist can now be called dinosaurs, deniers, sceptics, Satanists!... what next?

As for Don's piece, its a well written summary of what has been written before.
Posted by Alison Jane, Friday, 17 January 2020 11:31:54 AM
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The alternative global warming process, the constant rise in global
temperature since the 18th century Maunder Minimum to 2000 is right
on time.
That process, contrary to the conventional AGW theory, adds into the
mix the effect of clouds on earth temperature. As so it allocates
only 0.1 deg C to human generated warming, the rest to the sun due to
low average cloud cover and loss of reflected sun energy back into space.
The current era is the fourth or fifth warm cycle known in history.
The next cool time should be in about 300 years time.
This not new it has been known for years.
If you want to explore ALL possibilities here is a good starting
point.

http://calderup.wordpress.com/category/3b-the-svensmark-hypothesis/
Posted by Bazz, Friday, 17 January 2020 11:35:21 AM
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Allison,

i merely offer my opinion.

I believe the literature which shows a link between human activty and global warming.

i have held this belief since the late 1970s when i first thought there had to be consequences from humanity putting all this fuel into the atmosphere.
Posted by Chris Lewis, Friday, 17 January 2020 12:00:55 PM
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