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Bush fires, Australia and climate change : Comments

By Charles Essery, published 2/1/2020

Climate change has reached cult status and with the lemming-like adoration of characters like Greta et al, backburning is judged only to increase CO2 and therefore to be outcast.

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>I'll take my advice from our Creator.
Oh I do wish you would - it would make such a nice change from your normal practice of letting the neocons play you.

>'She came to prominence in 1970 when she began singing in the Continental Baths,
> a local gay bathhouse where she managed to build up a core following.'
So do you think she should have boycotted the venue where she was most appreciated?
Do you think doing so would have changed the sexuality of her fans?

How, exactly, do you think having performed in a gay bathhouse nearly half a century ago makes her a deviant?
And why do you think her alleged deviancy devalues her opinion on matters unrelated to it?
Posted by Aidan, Saturday, 4 January 2020 1:59:23 PM
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Its o tiresome that people have to fall back on politics and aggression/abuse (same thing really these days). ALL state governments I know of have cut back on land/forest/waterway resource management over the last 20 years irrespective of Labour or liberal. I condemn them as much as I criticise the green ideologies. The best thing that could and should come out of this and the subsequent inevitable inquiries would be recommendations that all sides ( don't expect the Greens though) to agree that there must be cross bench support for increased funding and authority for natural resources to be effectively and efficiently managed. Funny Master Steele Redux, where is Sara H-Young and De Natalie,, this is the first time I have heard them silent for a long, long time... or perhaps they are on holiday. I repeat. all pollies are responsible for this mess, just as the have been with water supply and the MD Basin. I hope but will not hold my breath, as the pollies and bureaucrats will run the inquires.
Posted by Alison Jane, Saturday, 4 January 2020 2:04:37 PM
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Dear Alison Jane,

You write;

“ALL state governments I know of have cut back on land/forest/waterway resource management over the last 20 years irrespective of Labour or liberal. I condemn them as much as I criticise the green ideologies.”

Firstly I haven't seen you criticise them once. Perhaps you could steer me toward an instance of you doing what you claim.

Secondly here in Victoria it was the Liberals who instituted savage cuts to services and therefore the fire management capacity of agencies like Parks Victoria.

Under Labour there have virtually always been gains, albeit modest.

Can you give me a single instance where this wasn't the case in Victoria? It shouldn't be hard since you are so adamant you know the situation well enough to make sweeping statements of the kind you have presented us with.

Not being to back up such statements is a trait I find particularly tiresome so I am hoping you will be able to furnish those examples.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Saturday, 4 January 2020 3:10:23 PM
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Altrav, what's your idea of a "good boy"? A child who plays sport for 40 hours a week? A boy who plays sport AND attends church for 20 hours a week and studies all day? He would have no time to study everything, and no time to sleep and recuperate. My father did that to me.

I attempted suicide after a few hours from boredom. Have you tried that?

Have you tried studying algebra for a few hours without rest?

Is a "good girl" a girl who wears dresses, learns hew to sew, cook, dance and dote on her partner? My father did that to my sister. She was also forced to learn the piano and ballet dancing. She (quite justifiably) is now estranged from the family.

The quickest way to end child abuse is a quick st*b to the jugular. In juvenile detention, and prison, you get free food and time to study. Which my father did not allow either myself, or my sister.
Posted by AyameTan, Saturday, 4 January 2020 3:11:55 PM
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Is climate-change responsible for the fires? The prescribed burning window is becoming more limited by climate-change.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-09-13/is-the-prescribed-burn-window-closing-in-australia/10236048?pfmredir=sm

Prescribed burns (and other activities that reduce fuel-load) are limited by environmental and biodiversity arguments which are now surely made moot by the utter devastation of unmitigated fires.

So,

We have to intensify the PB rate to achieve the same fuel-load reductions as in the past. This means a different funding model but not necessarily increased funding, tho' this will surely result from these fires.

We must carry out PS's (and other activities) accepting possible diminishment of flora and fauna, which doesn't necessarily diminish biodiversity, against the inclination of some government departments (the 'stakeholders') infiltrated by decision-making ideologues who can't see the wood for the trees.

With the fuel-load now depleted in affected areas we have time to get things in place.
Posted by Luciferase, Saturday, 4 January 2020 3:42:44 PM
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I have googled many of the places mentioned in the bush fires & found that many homes were heavily obscured by dense vegetation ! I was unable to detect fire breaks.
Posted by individual, Saturday, 4 January 2020 5:39:34 PM
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