Individual,

Have a look at Wytallibah in NSW, it's hard to find the buildings for the tree cover.

The mayor of Glen Innes, a devout Green, blames climate change, having completely ignored all warnings for years that the Wytallibah community, of which she is a member, was a disaster waiting to happen.

Armchair critic, have you ever spent 40 hours a week practicing a physical sport? Have you spent 40 hours a week studying algebra?

If you have, were you bored? If not, why do you criticize people you don't understand?

hey AyameTan,

"You admitted that hitting kids teaches them "tit for tat." I hope their "tat" leaves you within an inch of your life."

How am I supposed to respond to that in kind?

What do you want me to act like a child myself, get petty and say:
'Awww, well I hope your parenting style results in your kid running out in front of a car and becoming road mince'

You're missing the whole point of the lesson.

I said parents have a responsibility to ensure their kids physical and emotional wellbeing.

Then I said kids learn 2 behaviors, 'respect your parents', and 'tit for tat'.
Respect your parents = social behavior you learn with parents
It means - 'Do as your told' i.e. even if you don't like it, even if you don't understand why, just do it.

Tit for tat = social behavior you learn with peers
'If you hit me, then I'll hit you. If you don't listen to me I won't listen to you. If you don't respect me, then I won't respect you.', and so forth.

Only if you fail as a parent, to talk listen and get on the same page as them, resulting in failing to ensure their emotional wellbeing will you then break the 'respect your parents' contract and force them into 'tit for tat' behaviour.
'Tit for Tat' says you need to defend and stick up for yourself when others treat you unfairly.
So when parents treat kids unfairly, it's parents themselves that break that respect your parents contract focing the child into 'tit for tat' behavior.

And it's then that they're going to become dysfunctional and use bullying and violence to get what they want
- i.e. only when they've been treated unfairly themselves as a kid in situations at home they have no control over.

[Cont.]

Smacking them for running in front of cars on a main road doesnt fall into the category of being treated unfairly, it's not going to cause them to become dysfunctional or to learn that you can get what you want using violence.
It's going to teach them a much more valuable lesson, that 'actions have consequences'

Like I said there's an argument here that says you're the one being negligent if you don't smack them.
It's your job to ensure their physical wellbeing.
- That means it's your job to ensure (under penalty of death) they don't run out in front of cars.

It's not a motorists responsibility to do your job as a parent, and they shouldn't have to live with the death or injury you've caused by parental negligence.

This is all I have to say on this because it's off topic on a main thread, and it's not respectful to the author to have our own private discussions on their threads.
Feel free to move over to the general forums where the discussions and ability to go off-topic is a little more relaxed.

Thanks again for joining the forum.
I hope alternative views don't scare you away.

Armchair, if you think it's fine to beat children to teach them that retaliation is a fair response, you shouldn't be surprised if they grab your belt.

Did you read the article I linked?

Beating them does not help their emotional or physical well-being. It does NOT. Read the article if you don't believe me. Hit a noisy dog if you don't believe me.

Dont smack them for running in front of cars. Teach them about cars. Teach them about traffic accidents and fatality rates.

"Armchair critic, have you ever spent 40 hours a week practicing a physical sport? Have you spent 40 hours a week studying algebra?"

Before gaming consoles most kids got more than 40hrs a week physical activity.
I was naturally pretty good at maths and placed in an advanced maths class, but they took me out for mucking around and not applying myself in class to give the spot to someone else more deserving.
Back then calculators were not used to solve mathematical problems.
We had to do that ourselves and calculators were only used to check afterwards.
I rarely did my homework.

Sounds like you were subjected to some form of child abuse.
- You should probably take that up with your own parents, instead of taking it out on me, because that's what it feels like.